2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It‘s because of the one fan who confronted him in public and called him “Bradley.” He’s had a vendetta against all of us ever since. Only making moves to turn us against each other, slowly destroying ourselves from the inside.

God he’s brilliant.

Alright, I know we just had an argument... but this post did make me laugh and I am out of thanks!

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Yesterday, I learned that babies don’t need to wear regular diapers under their swim diapers because the pool doesn’t care about the piss, only the poo.

Which the swim diapers prevent.

Gross.

Diapers absorb moisture, so putting a child in a pool in a regular diaper does nothing but absorb moisture, including pee and pool water. Thus, all pee in the regular diaper would mix with the pool water anyway. There might be a small amount left behind in the diaper, but the diaper would be so saturated it would be useless, and mixing with the pool water.

The only option would be to have something which keeps pool water out of the diaper, and pee in the diaper. The tightness of the elastics would then be far too much for the child to handle.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think Edmonton is not empty because there is nothing else to do in that dump of a city. Flames fans might prefer a weekend in the mountains to spending money to watch the Flames lose.

When I was a season ticket holder it was hard to offload tickets during our 2 50 win seasons and in the playoffs last year. I am not as convinced as you are the fans will come if the team tanks.

There would be a dip in attendance but what are we talking? 1000 per game? Spend under the cap to compensate. I doubt it costs the owners that much if anything.

NHL revenue was what 35% for ticket sales? I doubt a rebuild would lead to huge losses.

Also, we traded Iggy and Jay Bo and Kipper retired. 1 season and then we had Johnny. Draft a young star and people will come during the tail end of the rebuild. 3-4 year rebuilds aren't terrible to watch for the entire 3-4 years.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

You really dont want to look into the percentage of how many adults pee in the pools...

Don't people watch at the swim up bar in Mexico.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Don't people watch at the swim up bar in Mexico.

You know deadline day is a banger when were talking about peeing in pools.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Alright, I know we just had an argument... but this post did make me laugh and I am out of thanks!

Let’s just reframe our arguments as happy little accidents.

Would prefer you to save some thanks to ensure you have enough to boost my numbers when needed, though.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I keep saying it - the market is different but not necessarily worse at the end of the season. Plus, this team has looked very good in a lot of game but for goaltending, so it's not hard to imagine them thinking that they should stand pat, with no big re-signs necessary and a good chance of improvement if goaltneind rebounds (or Wolf arrives).

"But Tanner Jeannot got a first"

Yeah, at 2025 conditional first. And he's an $800K 25 year old player on an expiring contract who had a rough year but scored 41 points the year before. Name me a Flame who sounds like that.

Jeannot was a ridiculous overpayment too.

But I wouldn't say any of the other moves made me go "Woah". Meier return was kinda meh, same with Chychrun.

IMO it's not necessarily that the returns have been overpayments (outside of Jeannot), just more that the volume of moves, and the volume of 2023 1sts moved has been surprising.

But really I'm not sure there has been a deal yet where multiple future 1st round picks have been moved. The market value has kind of been 2023 1st plus some pieces.

[stemit14]

I honestly don’t see much happening today for the flames. The only team that I think really fits as a trade partner right now is Carolina probably for Toffoli or backlund. And I imagine the flames aren’t willing to part with either of them if it doesn’t return at least a 1st round pick + top 3 prospect. Don’t think Carolina is willing to make that move.


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[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Not really - honestly, I do value your contributions to the board.

I am just disappointed with the direction of the team and dislike the current GM. Not as a person but the body of work and I think GMs on other teams complete transactions more aligned with how I think.

Thanks. I appreciate that.

I also think there are some things I would have done differently, and would do now, but I of course have no idea what the offers are, nor what the true edict from on high is.

I.e. I would look to trade Toffoli if I could get a 1st and another asset, like a 2nd or no lower than a B-prospect. I would not trade him just for the sake of it.

I would trade Lewis for a 4th or better, but would probably keep him if the offer was worse than that.

I would not trade Lindy unless I knew he was not going to sign here. Same with Dube. I have Hanifin in this boat as well.

Mangiapane I would look at if the price was right, but I think the offer would have to be a clear win to do it, otherwise I keep him, as his goals would be hard to replace. If I have a guaranteed 25 goals coming in for cheaper (Zary? Coronato? That's a lot to ask a rookie), then it is a deal I make, but not sure I know I have that coming in, so where do the goals come from?

[TheIronMaiden]

It feels like BT is in a rare space where folks really won't get angry at him for selling just about any player at the right place.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It feels like BT is in a rare space where folks really won't get angry at him for selling just about any player at the right place.

Ah yes, that rare space called: The fans don't like the team

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Let’s just reframe our arguments as happy little accidents.

Would prefer you to save some thanks to ensure you have enough to boost my numbers when needed, though.

Yeah, that's my bad. As soon as they reload and I get more Thanks - I got you!

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It feels like BT is in a rare space where folks really won't get angry at him for selling just about any player at the right place.

From the flames stance, there should be 0 untouchables. I'd say Huberdeau is untouchable but for all the wrong reasons.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Jeannot was a ridiculous overpayment too.

But I wouldn't say any of the other moves made me go "Woah". Meier return was kinda meh, same with Chychrun.

IMO it's not necessarily that the returns have been overpayments (outside of Jeannot), just more that the volume of moves, and the volume of 2023 1sts moved has been surprising.

But really I'm not sure there has been a deal yet where future 1st round picks have been moved.

I think the fact that the 2023 draft is supposed to be good made their value in trades more certain at the TDL and therefore more likely to be used (versus good prospects that can already be evaluated). In other words, someone in the past might have been offered a late 1st round 2022 but said "no, I'd rather have that guy you drafted two years ago that looks really good, because that 27th overall pick is such a crapshoot".

[Torture]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

You really dont want to look into the percentage of how many adults pee in the pools...

Yeah, baby pee should be the least of your concerns.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It feels like BT is in a rare space where folks really won't get angry at him for selling just about any player at the right place.

Fans will get angry at him no matter what.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It feels like BT is in a rare space where folks really won't get angry at him for selling just about any player at the right place.

I agree. There are players I would prefer to be moved but if anyone got sold I would not be disappointed.

Unless it's a terrible trade.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Thanks. I appreciate that.

I also think there are some things I would have done differently, and would do now, but I of course have no idea what the offers are, nor what the true edict from on high is.

I.e. I would look to trade Toffoli if I could get a 1st and another asset, like a 2nd or no lower than a B-prospect. I would not trade him just for the sake of it.

I would trade Lewis for a 4th or better, but would probably keep him if the offer was worse than that.

I would not trade Lindy unless I knew he was not going to sign here. Same with Dube. I have Hanifin in this boat as well.

Mangiapane I would look at if the price was right, but I think the offer would have to be a clear win to do it, otherwise I keep him, as his goals would be hard to replace. If I have a guaranteed 25 goals coming in for cheaper (Zary? Coronato? That's a lot to ask a rookie), then it is a deal I make, but not sure I know I have that coming in, so where do the goals come from?

Out of thanks, but this basically my opinion too.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Thanks. I appreciate that.

I also think there are some things I would have done differently, and would do now, but I of course have no idea what the offers are, nor what the true edict from on high is.

I.e. I would look to trade Toffoli if I could get a 1st and another asset, like a 2nd or no lower than a B-prospect. I would not trade him just for the sake of it.

I would trade Lewis for a 4th or better, but would probably keep him if the offer was worse than that.

I would not trade Lindy unless I knew he was not going to sign here. Same with Dube. I have Hanifin in this boat as well.

Mangiapane I would look at if the price was right, but I think the offer would have to be a clear win to do it, otherwise I keep him, as his goals would be hard to replace. If I have a guaranteed 25 goals coming in for cheaper (Zary? Coronato? That's a lot to ask a rookie), then it is a deal I make, but not sure I know I have that coming in, so where do the goals come from?

You may have just melted Keenan’s brain.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It feels like BT is in a rare space where folks really won't get angry at him for selling just about any player at the right place.

Yup. Everyone is so frustrated, we just want to see anything.

But putting emotions aside, I won't be surprised if they do nothing and run back a similar team next year with off season tweaking.