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Old 03-02-2023, 10:18 PM   #13241
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If we fall another couple of spots, we have a chance at 1st overall. Like a 3% chance, but a chance.
Need to get to 11th worst
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Old 03-02-2023, 10:20 PM   #13242
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Can we give back our loser points if we don’t need em?
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Old 03-02-2023, 10:21 PM   #13243
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They are basically 10th-11th worst right now

But since the games are starting to be meaningless, expect Markstrom to thrive and the team would miss out on a shot at Bedard
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Old 03-02-2023, 10:24 PM   #13244
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They are basically 10th-11th worst right now

But since the games are starting to be meaningless, expect Markstrom to thrive and the team would miss out on a shot at Bedard
Yup, that's exactly what's going to happen. Looks like Marky was just waiting for his baby to come out. He'll be a world-beater now.
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Old 03-02-2023, 10:25 PM   #13245
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They are basically 10th-11th worst right now

But since the games are starting to be meaningless, expect Markstrom to thrive and the team would miss out on a shot at Bedard
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Old 03-02-2023, 10:28 PM   #13246
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Bettman will make sure we get Bedard. Will help increase the appetite for a new arena.
Not usually a big conspiracy person, but here's hoping ...

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Old 03-02-2023, 10:35 PM   #13247
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I was thinking the same thing. "The House That Connor Built, Calgary Edition".
Pittsburgh got Crosby not long after the city final got it together to make a new building. They just needed a new star player to ensure that butts would be in the seats.

I am only half serious.
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Bettman will make sure we get Bedard. Will help increase the appetite for a new arena.
If betman is going to help any trsm get a new arena by gifting them Bedard, it’s going to be his love child Arizona coyotes.
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Pittsburgh got Crosby not long after the city final got it together to make a new building. They just needed a new star player to ensure that butts would be in the seats.

I am only half serious.
Funding was secured and the arena built years AFTER Crosby was drafted by the Penguins. I always thought that lottery was fixed as well.
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Old 03-02-2023, 10:48 PM   #13250
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Funding was secured and the arena built years AFTER Crosby was drafted by the Penguins. I always thought that lottery was fixed as well.
You are correct. That makes it even fishier. I think I was thinking of Edmonton.
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Old 03-02-2023, 10:57 PM   #13251
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GM and CO fielded a TON of calls today. Nothing too close to hold players out.
Flames received initial offers on a few players after letting the league know its intentions be known but this isn't an estate sale.
Teams mostly engaged with the Flames are Carolina(no ####), Colorado, Winnipeg, Buffalo and Ottawa.
I don't think the asking price for Lindholm will be met by 3PM EST but deadlines breed desperation.
Players with the most interest seem to be Backlund, Toffoli and Dube...Lewis will probably go tomorrow.
Flames D are of interest around the league to teams both in and out of the hunt but the same snag for the flames continues to hold them hostage.. Oliver Kylington.
Surprise name of day was Mangiapane - Having an average season but this could be the case of buying the potential..5.8M Cap hit for 2 more years is a sticking point...doesn't seem to have fire in his heart.
Challenge is Flames are not interested in complete future trades but teams don't want to subtract from their rosters in the hunt. Most teams that wanted to move 2023 1st rounders have done so.
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Old 03-02-2023, 11:01 PM   #13252
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Tanev, backlund, Toffoli.

They've all been great but their value will never be higher. Time to trust some prospects
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GM and CO fielded a TON of calls today. Nothing too close to hold players out.
Flames received initial offers on a few players after letting the league know its intentions be known but this isn't an estate sale.
Teams mostly engaged with the Flames are Carolina(no ####), Colorado, Winnipeg, Buffalo and Ottawa.
I don't think the asking price for Lindholm will be met by 3PM EST but deadlines breed desperation.
Players with the most interest seem to be Backlund, Toffoli and Dube...Lewis will probably go tomorrow.
Flames D are of interest around the league to teams both in and out of the hunt but the same snag for the flames continues to hold them hostage.. Oliver Kylington.
Surprise name of day was Mangipane - Having an average season but this could be the case of buying the potential..5.8M Cap hit for 2 more years is a sticking point...doesn't seem to have fire in his heart.
Challenge is Flames are not interested in complete future trades but teams don't want to subtract from their rosters in the hunt. Most teams that wanted to move 2023 1st rounders have done so.
Let’s just hope someone gets sold tomorrow
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Old 03-02-2023, 11:07 PM   #13254
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Let’s just hope someone gets sold tomorrow
I don’t think Flames brass is sitting on their hands.
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Would love to rid the team of Mangiapane and that awful contract.
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GM and CO fielded a TON of calls today. Nothing too close to hold players out.
Flames received initial offers on a few players after letting the league know its intentions be known but this isn't an estate sale.
Teams mostly engaged with the Flames are Carolina(no ####), Colorado, Winnipeg, Buffalo and Ottawa.
I don't think the asking price for Lindholm will be met by 3PM EST but deadlines breed desperation.
Players with the most interest seem to be Backlund, Toffoli and Dube...Lewis will probably go tomorrow.
Flames D are of interest around the league to teams both in and out of the hunt but the same snag for the flames continues to hold them hostage.. Oliver Kylington.
Surprise name of day was Mangipane - Having an average season but this could be the case of buying the potential..5.8M Cap hit for 2 more years is a sticking point...doesn't seem to have fire in his heart.
Challenge is Flames are not interested in complete future trades but teams don't want to subtract from their rosters in the hunt. Most teams that wanted to move 2023 1st rounders have done so.

How do you know this?
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Old 03-02-2023, 11:12 PM   #13257
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Sell Toffoli for 1st. And sell some spare parts, maybe, like Lucic, Lewis? Others can be traded next season as we all know they will have the best season as contract years.
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Old 03-02-2023, 11:12 PM   #13258
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GM and CO fielded a TON of calls today. Nothing too close to hold players out.
Flames received initial offers on a few players after letting the league know its intentions be known but this isn't an estate sale.
Teams mostly engaged with the Flames are Carolina(no ####), Colorado, Winnipeg, Buffalo and Ottawa.
I don't think the asking price for Lindholm will be met by 3PM EST but deadlines breed desperation.
Players with the most interest seem to be Backlund, Toffoli and Dube...Lewis will probably go tomorrow.
Flames D are of interest around the league to teams both in and out of the hunt but the same snag for the flames continues to hold them hostage.. Oliver Kylington.
Surprise name of day was Mangipane - Having an average season but this could be the case of buying the potential..5.8M Cap hit for 2 more years is a sticking point...doesn't seem to have fire in his heart.
Challenge is Flames are not interested in complete future trades but teams don't want to subtract from their rosters in the hunt. Most teams that wanted to move 2023 1st rounders have done so.
I'm sorry but if this is true, this team is so ####ing dumb. Truly unbelievable. We're never getting out of the woods.

Who cares if you are able to make a hockey trade for roster players, or entirely for futures? This season is lost. The lower you finish the better.

But beyond that, as much as I would want the Flames to simply use draft picks in the draft, draft picks are also a medium of exchange. Just trade them for whatever 29 year old mistake you want to make next before signing him for 7 years at a cap hit that far exceeds any value he'll ever provide to the team.
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Old 03-02-2023, 11:13 PM   #13259
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Man, just grab some tiered prospects. It's not like we couldnt use developing talent in all areas of a development arc.
Sure it'd be nice to have another 1st in this draft but adding a Brad Lambert or Noel Gunler or a top shelf D prospect or two wouldn't hurt either. Gotta keep the graduation cycle going somehow.
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Old 03-02-2023, 11:19 PM   #13260
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I would be ok if the returns are young prospects, as opposed to firsts, as long as they are top-tier. All the teams mentioned above have those pieces.
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