2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[SuperMatt18]

I just don't see them buying now.

If they were going to go all in and buy then they wouldn't have waited until today after floundering for a couple weeks. They would have bought at the all-star break.

I think stuff like the Ritchie and Edmundson news today might be them just checking to see if the prices have dropped, or having internal discussions about guys they would be interested in if the market falls out.

But no chance do I see them moving their 1st or 2nd.

If anything I think the remaining sellers are starting to feel like the market is drying up with the Eastern teams having made most of their moves, and are likely the ones leaking names like Calgary as being interested in an attempt to make it seem like there is a market.

[ResAlien]

I like it. Edmundson sounds close to Gubrandson and you can never have enough defence. Did you know defence wins championships?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

I like it. Edmundson sounds close to Gubrandson and you can never have enough defence. Did you know defence wins championships?

We have enough defence tons of it some of the best, the issue is we have no goalie.

[Jiggy_12]

I can’t imagine that we could be dumb enough to be buyers. Stand pat? I don’t like it but I could be convinced.

But buy? Bye

[Bingo Jr.]

I just want to fast-forward to the deadline. Can't focus on school when I'm in constant fear of Tre trading for a slow 33 year old instead of selling.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Well, Sportsnet deleted this clip, but for those who didn't see it: Francis said that he believes that Brad's decision to come back is most likely in his own hands. He also said that he believes there definite friction between him and Darryl on their philosophies with the team and he doesn't think they'll be able to co-exist

If that is the case, then Treliving is as good as gone. No one in his position should have to deal with that pressure from a subordinate so he'll look for opportunities elsewhere or take a break. Not sure how this will play out for the team, but it likely means a much needed change one way or another.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Bingo Jr.

I just want to fast-forward to the deadline. Can't focus on school when I'm in constant fear of Tre trading for a slow 33 year old instead of selling.

Oh we will end up with James Van Riemsdyk

[Bingo Jr.]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Oh we will end up with James Van Rymsdyk

It's inevitable, isn't it?

[Super-Rye]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

when did being in contention become a bad thing?

It's not but I think it's pretty clear that the mix of this team isn't going to work, so they gotta switch things up.

As bad as the goaltending has been, and it has been so, so, so bad, this team is quite possibly the least "clutch" team I've ever seen. For contrast I'd say the 2015 Flames were probably one of the most "clutch" teams I've ever seen. You had to watch every game that season because you just KNEW even though they were down 4-0, they were gonna claw back and make a game of it.

This team is the opposite of that. This team is a good team that has no swagger.

The only forwards who are consistently showing anything offensively are probably Lindholm, Backlund and Toffoli with an honorable mention to Dube who seems to be coming into his own. Backlund especially has been a real big player for the team this season. He just always seems to be around it and when they need a goal he's got the play on his stick. It's a real shame this team has wasted that.

Outside of that signs of life have been inconsistent at best and non-existent at worst. Kadri has been amazing at times and terrible at others. Huberdeau is a guy we've seen fleeting glimpses of. Mangiapane's been ok of late but his production hasn't been there.

Too many posts and out for too many players.

The Defense I have a little more faith in but I do think there needs to be some changes there as well.

If this team isn't "it" then it's time to look at who we might extend beyond the end of next season and start shipping out the players who don't fit the bill. This team HAS to stop paying a premium for other teams players while getting very little in return for their UFA's.

[sa226]

I would be floored if they traded for a rental.

But I can absolutely see them trading assets for players with terms to attempt to make the team better.

I don't think the mandate has changed from win now. I bet the selling rumors stem from the vultures circling on a disappointing season. There are a lot of good forwards on this team with desirable contracts, especially with a bit if retention.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were taking calls on some of the top players, but the return had to help them next year at the latest. Or at the very least provide them with significant assets to retool over the summer.

I just don't see a full rebuild, but an acknowledgement that something isn't right and a soft retool could never necessary.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

If there's truly friction between Darryl and Brad on the team, who stays and who goes?

ready to move on from both of them. I like Tre better than many on here, but after a almost decade, I wouldn't be against a fresh perspective.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by traptor

It's about being competitive for longer then 1 season. If a team doesn't want to rebuild then they need smart asset management to stay competitive consistently.

trading players for picks does not keep you competitive

any picks they acquire will not be helping the team until after this window closes

[Badgers Nose]

But Edmunson = NG

[TheChief]

Brad knows how to work the phones sure, and also knows how to take star players into free agency with no leverage. Why are you all scared about him leaving? I say good riddance. Bring on Lombardi/Futa or whoever Sutter wants.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Super-Rye

It's not but I think it's pretty clear that the mix of this team isn't going to work, so they gotta switch things up.

As bad as the goaltending has been, and it has been so, so, so bad, this team is quite possibly the least "clutch" team I've ever seen. For contrast I'd say the 2015 Flames were probably one of the most "clutch" teams I've ever seen. You had to watch every game that season because you just KNEW even though they were down 4-0, they were gonna claw back and make a game of it.

This team is the opposite of that. This team is a good team that has no swagger.

The only forwards who are consistently showing anything offensively are probably Lindholm, Backlund and Toffoli with an honorable mention to Dube who seems to be coming into his own. Backlund especially has been a real big player for the team this season. He just always seems to be around it and when they need a goal he's got the play on his stick. It's a real shame this team has wasted that.

Outside of that signs of life have been inconsistent at best and non-existent at worst. Kadri has been amazing at times and terrible at others. Huberdeau is a guy we've seen fleeting glimpses of. Mangiapane's been ok of late but his production hasn't been there.

Too many posts and out for too many players.

The Defense I have a little more faith in but I do think there needs to be some changes there as well.

If this team isn't "it" then it's time to look at who we might extend beyond the end of next season and start shipping out the players who don't fit the bill. This team HAS to stop paying a premium for other teams players while getting very little in return for their UFA's.

if you're right, they can tear it down next near

there is no need to do it this year

[flambers]

They for sure should not acquire a rental, and they should not stand pat.

Flames should move out the older players, and acquire draft picks.

It would be a mistake in my view, to make zero trades.

Especially with a strong 2023 draft.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

if you're right, they can tear it down next near

there is no need to do it this year

It’s appeared to be a sellers market this year. No guarantee or that next year

We all thought we were going to get massive returns for Iginla and Bouwmeester. Turned out to be a buyers market and we got next to nothing (compared to what we should have)

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by TheChief

Brad knows how to work the phones sure, and also knows how to take star players into free agency with no leverage. Why are you all scared about him leaving? I say good riddance. Bring on Lombardi/Futa or whoever Sutter wants.



In Sutter we trust.

Personally I’m terrified of change. It doesn’t matter if we have a decade of results I’m fine with it, the next guy could possibly be worse so it’s better to stick with the known quantity and pray for better results. You can’t really judge a GM after a decade anyhow everyone knows you need at least 15 years of results to even start to decide if someone is good or not.

No changes, keep everyone, no trades, hope for better results. That’s the smart solution.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

We all thought we were going to get massive returns for Iginla and Bouwmeester. Turned out to be a buyers market and we got next to nothing (compared to what we should have)

Huge failure with how they handled moving out their core.

Simply waited to long....

[Super-Rye]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

if you're right, they can tear it down next near

there is no need to do it this year

Why wait? If prices are good now they can get some work done. They don't have to ship everything out now, but a move or 2 that show the new direction of the team is a good start.