03-01-2023, 04:43 PM
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#41
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I’d drive Hanifin to Ottawa for Ottawa’s 1st, never mind the 2nds, though they’d be nice too.
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03-01-2023, 04:44 PM
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#42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
I’d drive Hanifin to Ottawa for Ottawa’s 1st, never mind the 2nds, though they’d be nice too.
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You wouldn't have a job very long with a deal like that.
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03-01-2023, 04:45 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Arizona always has bundle of drafts for quite a few years now, and yet they're still where they are.
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03-01-2023, 04:45 PM
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#44
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat
So Tanner Jeannot fetched more than Chychrun in a trade. Didn't see that coming.
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Not remotely.
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03-01-2023, 04:54 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Ah, another 1st off the board…
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03-01-2023, 04:54 PM
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#46
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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There Chychrun. There's your contender. Now shut up.
Oh wait.
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03-01-2023, 04:55 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Not remotely.
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It's not...but it's a hell of a lot closer than anybody would have expected lol
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03-01-2023, 04:56 PM
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#48
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
You wouldn't have a job very long with a deal like that.
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Actually yeah I realize now that Ottawa’s first is more like 15th than the 8th or so I thought it was. Still, if Hanifin is moved it should be for a pick that at least has a decent chance of being top 10. That would be a good enough best piece as long as the rest of the package is solid.
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03-01-2023, 04:59 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
It's not...but it's a hell of a lot closer than anybody would have expected lol
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There's a good chance the Preds don't even get a single top-30 pick out of that!
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03-01-2023, 04:59 PM
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#50
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by bigrangy
Arizona banking on the sens continuing to stumble into next year. Huge risk for Sens to do this, but Chychrun is a pretty good player.
The condition of Ottawa makes the 2023 ECF is frickin laughable though. 0 chance.
Wonder how Chychrun and Chabot share ice time, they’re both big minute munchers.
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Also wonder how this impacts Sanderson. Feels like they have 3 dmen to build around but all 3 are good on the PP might not be stars in their own end.
Ottawa is really trying to win now, but they have all their core signed long term, so they did have the option to be patient.
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03-01-2023, 05:00 PM
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#51
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I think it's good for both sides the more I think about it.
It's the Dougie Hamilton to Calgary trade.
Arizona: This gives them the best draft pick they were likely to get in the trade, as of today that pick would be 12th. Plus two other 2nd round picks. Think they could have got more had they acted earlier, but this first is likely the best first on the board.
Ottawa: Wanted a young, top pairing d-man to pair with Chabot. This gives them that, and he's a local guy to boot.
I like it for both sides.
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Except it's only 2.25 years of term on an injury prone player.
Pick values were all known with Hamilton (15, 45, 52).
This could include a 6-12OA in a great draft, and the 2nds could be anywhere. Heh, one of the seconds is a full year after Chychrun's UFA year.
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03-01-2023, 05:03 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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I wonder if Arizona was only willing to deal with teams that could take on Chychrun's whole salary and not send any salary back
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03-01-2023, 05:05 PM
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#53
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
I wonder if Arizona was only willing to deal with teams that could take on Chychrun's whole salary and not send any salary back
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With the picks they have if they could spend money starting this off-season and the next few, they could be very good.
If they can't spend then a young team with high end potential is the only chance they have
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03-01-2023, 05:07 PM
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#54
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Ottawa will get good pretty soon
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Their division is still killer.
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03-01-2023, 05:13 PM
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#55
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Lifetime Suspension
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Haha stupid coyotes poverty franchise continues on.
Nashville got a better haul for a plugger
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03-01-2023, 05:14 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Park Ave SW
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Such excitement on the trade front!
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03-01-2023, 05:14 PM
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#57
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Haha stupid coyotes poverty franchise continues on.
Nashville got a better haul for a plugger
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Only if you really love late picks.
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03-01-2023, 05:21 PM
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#58
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Only if you really love late picks.
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Doesn't change the fact they got more and the Coyotes held out all this time for the return. That's why they are in the shape they are.
You can also use the draft capital to move in drafts Nashville has a haul.
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03-01-2023, 05:31 PM
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#59
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
The other trend seems to be, teams will trade their picks but the second you ask for an already drafted top prospect, they hang up.
Not one high end prospect has moved so far. Tons of firsts have and maybe the Oilers traded one of their best prospects, but no top 30 prospects have moved. Arizona did ok because they probably got one in that deal, unless Ottawa takes off and wins a bunch of games down the stretch.
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Thats because a 20+ first round pick only has around a 1/3 chance of playing 100 games in the NHL. A top prospect should have much better odds at being much more then that. Fans overvalue picks and are to simplistic in how they bucket them (1st round vs groupings. i.e., 1-5, 6-12, etc.) which is how most GM's talk about them.
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03-01-2023, 05:36 PM
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#60
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Also gotta remember that OTT paid a '23 2nd to dump Zaitsev, which was presumably a factor in facilitating this trade.
The East is super tough, but it's not a great sign when you have to spend this much draft capital just to get into the bubble. Since the last draft:
OUT:
7
1st
39
2nd*
2nd
2nd
3rd
3rd
4th
7th
Matt Murray
Zaitsev
Connor Brown
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2nd (used today)
7th*
Debrincat
Chycrun
Seems like an awful lot for a diminutive winger and injury prone D with 2.25 years to UFA.
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