[PGT] Bruins 4 Flames 3 OT Loss

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Savvy27

On a more positive note, I watched Pelletier really closely tonight and he's fantastic without the puck. He made great plays all over the ice. His pressure on the forecheck is similar to Coleman.

Weegar was also really good tonight. Seemed like he was a little more aggressive on the offensive side.

Lots of players played well tonight. There is a lot of good in the organization right now.

Yep, I can see two things the last little while. 1. Huberdeau and Pelletier are going to be dynamite together, going forward. And even better once Sutter finally sees that Kadri is a horrible fit for that line and dragging them down.

and 2. Weegar is, imo, our best defensemen, and I'm really excited for what these three players can bring next season once they figure out Sutter, somehow.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Locke

We really dont know why Tkachuk left, and we may never know.

It could have been a management screwup, a lot of signs point in that direction, but it just as easily could have been a veritable cornucopia of other reasons.

It would be interesting to know if this off-season management was dealt a crappy hand or whether that damage was self-inflicted.

Either way though, that doesnt reflect on the on-ice performance of this group.

On the one hand, I can understand management's claim that this is an under-performing group that 'could' be better than their record suggests, however at the end of the day this is a results-based business and the people in it are judged based on their results.

One can claim that the standings dont accurately reflect the caliber of this team, however, unfortunately, that reflection, however inaccurate it may be, is the only one that counts.

Tkachuk in a interview with sports net said the management always structured his deal offers that led him to early free agency he didn't ask for it. He from day one wanted better term deals but Treliving came to him with what we see him get.

So it's not that all signs point to miss management. Tkachuk himself has said he was ready ro go l9nger but Calgary kept up with short term deals so he took it.

Treliving should go to Boston Pizza with his dad.

[Barnet Flame]

It is hard to put in to words just how much of a let down this season has been. The only way I can put it is that in terms of expectation for this season, output, entertainment and hope for the future - on and off the ice, this is the lowest I’ve felt since the Flames arrived almost 43 years ago.

And it isn’t even close, except for maybe the time that led to ‘save the Flames’. And to be honest, I think we are sleepwalking in to an even more precarious situation now.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Tkachuk in a interview with sports net said the management always structured his deal offers that led him to early free agency he didn't ask for it. He from day one wanted better term deals but Treliving came to him with what we see him get.

So it's not that all signs point to miss management. Tkachuk himself has said he was ready ro go l9nger but Calgary kept up with short term deals so he took it.

Treliving should go to Boston Pizza with his dad.

Look...its late, and I dont mean to be argumentative, but I dont believe that.

"Tkachuk took what he could get" is pretty much the antithesis of the Tkachuk family motto.

Furthermore...

"Tkachuk was only offered deals that led him to Free Agency sooner 'that he didnt ask for'" seems idiotic since its pretty much the status that all NHLers unanimously race for since that is Payday.

Leading a player to FA by the nose is doing a disservice to the team and helping the player...for the player with a strong bargaining position to bemoan that? Doesnt make a lot of sense.

[saillias]

Jesus Tkachuk is a liar dude, you think after his insistence that he would be willing to sign here long term enthusiastically and then what actually happened would make that clear. An extremely dishonest person. He forced his way out of town by refusing to sign. He's not his brother. If management is to blame at all it's for drafting a player who never wanted to be in Canada.

[N-E-B]

One thing I’ve learned about Matthew Tkachuk is that he cares about his public image a lot. He doesn’t want us to view him as the bad guy. He says a lot of kiss ass stuff in the media and he always has.

Not saying it’s a bad thing, and I’m not calling him a liar, but I’ve always taken whatever he says with a huge grain of salt. The guy called Paul Maurice the best coach he has ever had before he even played for him.

[FireGilbert]

Still haven’t lost back to back in regulation in 6 weeks. Can only laugh at this point.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

they had 22 high danger chances though, they didn't lose the game because of one pass that was picked off

One day soon we will talk about how ‘high danger’ is defined, and what the implication is

[Manhattanboy]

Maybe Huberdeau’s agent has something smart to say after that one.

Jackass.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Yeah, that was crazy. That was the most opposing fans I think I've ever seen for a non Canadian opponent.

I was also at the Habs game and I think there were more Bruins fans tonight than there were Habs fans at that one.

I know a lot of people that are randomly Bruins fans. And they pass it on to their kids. Maybe it goes back to pre-Flames. When I was little Montreal was the best team and their rival was the Bruins, so naturally a lot of Albertans loved the Bruins.

[DeluxeMoustache]

I may have to become a Bruins fan. Looks pretty rewarding

“Here we go Bruins, here we go”

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Savvy27

On a more positive note, I watched Pelletier really closely tonight and he's fantastic without the puck. He made great plays all over the ice. His pressure on the forecheck is similar to Coleman.

Weegar was also really good tonight. Seemed like he was a little more aggressive on the offensive side.

Lots of players played well tonight. There is a lot of good in the organization right now.

Every skater plus Markstrom played well overall. We tend to pick out individual bad plays but man, as a team they dominated the best team in the NHL. Absent Vladar this was an easy win against a tough opponent.

[calgarywinning]

if Sutter comes out and plays man on man D every game, the other team has quite a bit of insight into your system.

For example; the Bruins collapsed on many of the shots into a 3 defence in front of net. It was neat to see and very effective. Man on Man is a lot of chasing and work and doesn't always apply. Shake that's hit up.

Vladar was BAD. I don't know, this team is psychologicaly thrilling in they failures.

Hopefully we can just keep moving forward and hit some kind of winning streak with other teams collapsing. Gotta run with Markstrom now until the end of the season!

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Every skater plus Markstrom played well overall. We tend to pick out individual bad plays but man, as a team they dominated the best team in the NHL. Absent Vladar this was an easy win against a tough opponent.

Rough by Vladar, gotta have the first one.

But easy win… you don’t see a problem with 3 goals on 57 shots?

[Goriders]

I’ve never really seen a team like this to be honest. That can dominate teams so completely and still find ways to lose. It must be a mental thing at this point.

The goalies almost on cue let in one of the first 3 shots. Which leaves the team walking on egg shells.

Players have zero finish. On multiple scoring opportunities. They are horrendous at scoring.

Inevitable collapse anytime the pressure ramps up.

Just a mentally weak group. Very frustrating to watch. But in many ways also very predictable. I called exactly what was going to happen in the 3rd period. Because I’ve seen it play out so many times this year. Over and over again.

Hard one to figure out. But the goaltending, scoring and leadership need to be sorted out in the offseason. Although they have blown so many opportunities this season I don’t think they are that far off. They have a lot of good players. It’s just figuring out the changes to make to get the most out of them. Effort is not the problem. They can play with anyone. But as a group it simply isn’t working.

Mind boggling team.

[Classic_Sniper]

Wow, this game could very well go down as the poster boy of the 22-23 Flames. Badly out work, out shoot and out chance their opponent yet find a way to lose in OT. Not to mention losing the special teams battle and Vladar giving up a softie on the first shot.

Overall, thought every line came to play tonight especially Walker Duehr and the 4th line who looked extraordinary. Weegar and Andersson looked outstanding. Huberdeau won quite a few 50/50s and made some nice plays. Ditto for Pelletier. Dube scored a huge goal. The Backlund line was good as usual. Not a fan of the penalty he took though. Not sure what Zadorov was thinking with that hit though. Took himself and his teammate out of their PK structure to deliver an unnecessary open ice hit. Lastly, I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen a player with a worse shot selection in overtime than Nazem Kadri. I think I’d rather he dump the puck back in his own zone to reset their breakout than watching him continuously shoot low percentage shots from 50 feet out leading to dangerous counter attacks.

I don’t know if the Flames end up making the playoffs or not. But I think it’ll depend a lot on how the Winnipeg Jets play down stretch here. They’ve lost a lot of games recently and have dropped into a wild card position. That April 5th date could be a big one if the Jets continue to struggle. They also have a couple games against the Oilers and if they don't turn into 3 point games, then the Flames might still have a chance assuming they can take care of their own business.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Biggest disappointment this year is losing Tkachuk . Management ####ed that up. Don't believe we lost him because he's American and wanted the leisure life in Florida. Brady signed long term no problem when Senators offered it. Matthew said Flames never offered it earlier in his career. Having at least Tkachuk on this team alone probably pushes the needle.


Brad can go fly a kite and ownership . Till Edward's dies nothing gets meaningfully done.

I accepted a while ago that Tkachuk was never gonna be a Flame for life. Even if Johnny signed back he most likely still would’ve wanted out

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by saillias

Jesus Tkachuk is a liar dude, you think after his insistence that he would be willing to sign here long term enthusiastically and then what actually happened would make that clear. An extremely dishonest person. He forced his way out of town by refusing to sign. He's not his brother. If management is to blame at all it's for drafting a player who never wanted to be in Canada.

It's just part of the business. If you have been with an employer for 6 years that has paid and treated you well, in the last year of your contract would you walk around the building telling everyone that you plan on leaving before even procuring a replacement job? The moment the bridge contract was announced the writing was on the wall and at the end of the day it was the GM that read the player totally wrong. As a GM you have to go with your head not your heart and that's been a bit of an issue with Treliving.

[Roof-Daddy]

75% on the deserve to win o meter against the top team in the league and yet another loss lol

What a rough season

[All In Good Time]

Again
Just like the Vegas game, I didn’t expect them to get a point
If you look at the remaining games for the flames and everyone else, I don’t think it’s necessary over either