02-28-2023, 10:58 PM
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#261
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by keenan87
If only that's how playoff spots were determined..
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I'm curious are you a Keenan fan?
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02-28-2023, 10:59 PM
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#262
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Section 120
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I would be open to the Flames trading Hanifin of Tanev. They would get us a great haul and it wouldn’t set us into a rebuild. Gilbert is here to stay on the 3rd pairing. If only Kylington could come back next year…
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02-28-2023, 11:00 PM
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#263
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Franchise Player
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18-2 high danger chances at even strength lol
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02-28-2023, 11:03 PM
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#264
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Gotta appreciate the effort. That might’ve been their best of the season, except Kadri, who is on another planet.
Tough loss for the boys. Vladar has to feel bad after that one.
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He looked like it on the bench.
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02-28-2023, 11:04 PM
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#265
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Yup.
You cant crap on Kadri for not making the pass on one play and them #### on Huberdeau for making the pass on the next.
The dmen made a good play to just get the blade of his stick on the pass across but I prefer a pass on a 2-1 every time. You need to get a goalie like Ullmark moving laterally to score.
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Ullmark had no stick on the Huberdeau play, that's the difference.
You take the shot 10 times out of 10.
Huberdeau himself said in his post game interview he didn't know Ullmark was missing his stick.
It was the wrong play.
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02-28-2023, 11:07 PM
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#266
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Ullmark had no stick on the Huberdeau play, that's the difference.
You take the shot 10 times out of 10.
Huberdeau himself said in his post game interview he didn't know Ullmark was missing his stick.
It was the wrong play.
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Likely because he's never looking at the net in order to shoot the puck.
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02-28-2023, 11:08 PM
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#267
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goriders
They probably have to go 15-6 down the stretch. 72% win percentage.
It’s over. Just accept it. Figure out who isn’t in the long term plan and get what you can for them. Audition young guys like Zary and Wolf.
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Do not promote anymore from the farm club. They are having a stellar season, poised for a long playoff run. That will be way more beneficial for their development than playing garbage minutes in pointless games in the NHL. I honestly wouldn’t even be that upset if Pelletier was sent back down if the team is 6 or more points outside WC2 by next week.
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02-28-2023, 11:09 PM
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#268
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Powerplay Quarterback
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The Flames played a good game, but:
1. Goaltending was not good
2. 57 shots means nothing when it's almost all easy perimeter shots.
Tonight's loss is all on Sutter though. The quote function won't work, but fully agreed with just_tim's comment about the man-to-man defense system. It's impossible to play 100% mistake free hockey against the best teams in the league...they move the puck too well, they play at a fast pace, and the skill threshold of every day players has never been higher. Defensive assignments will be blown from time to time.
One or two defensive breakdowns shouldn't make or break a game like it did tonight. Sutter needs to adjust his system to fit a league where scoring is back to being on par with 80s and early-90s...the current system that requires perfect execution is not working.
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02-28-2023, 11:10 PM
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#269
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Ullmark had no stick on the Huberdeau play, that's the difference.
You take the shot 10 times out of 10.
Huberdeau himself said in his post game interview he didn't know Ullmark was missing his stick.
It was the wrong play.
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I think a goalie without a stick is more likely to stop a shot than a pass across on a two on one.
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02-28-2023, 11:10 PM
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#270
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boogerz
The Flames played a good game, but:
1. Goaltending was not good
2. 57 shots means nothing when it's almost all easy perimeter shots.
Tonight's result is all on Sutter though. The quote function won't work, but fully agreed with just_tim's comment about the man-to-man defense system. It's impossible to play 100% mistake free hockey against the best teams in the league...they move the puck too well, they play at a fast pace, and the skill threshold of every day players has never been higher. Defensive assignments will be blown from time to time.
One or two defensive breakdowns shouldn't make or break a game like it did tonight. Sutter needs to adjust his system to fit a league where scoring is back to being on par with 80s and early-90s...
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didn't watch the game?
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02-28-2023, 11:11 PM
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#271
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boogerz
The Flames played a good game, but:
1. Goaltending was not good
2. 57 shots means nothing when it's almost all easy perimeter shots.
Tonight's result is all on Sutter though. The quote function won't work, but fully agreed with just_tim's comment about the man-to-man defense system. It's impossible to play 100% mistake free hockey against the best teams in the league...they move the puck too well, they play at a fast pace, and the skill threshold of every day players has never been higher. Defensive assignments will be blown from time to time.
One or two defensive breakdowns shouldn't make or break a game like it did tonight. Sutter needs to adjust his system to fit a league where scoring is back to being on par with 80s and early-90s...
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I criticize the perimeter shots a lot, but tonight that was not the case. They had quality shots.
Tonight’s result is not all on Sutter. It’s easily all on Vladar. The guy people keep saying Sutter needs to start.
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02-28-2023, 11:12 PM
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#272
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Franchise Player
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high danger chances were 18-2
this wasn't like some of the other games
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02-28-2023, 11:15 PM
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#273
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Good thing they didn't waive Markstrom!
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02-28-2023, 11:15 PM
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#274
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Franchise Player
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That last second game winner is tough to take, no doubt, but hard to believe the Flames would come out on top in the shoot out with the way Ullmark was playing.
This is the kind of game that really plays with your emotions. Watching them, you think, this team can be really good and we've seen it a few times this season against some of the best teams in the league. The thing is, though, if they bring this kind of game 50% of the time against the bottom feeders in the league, the odds are they are comfortably in a playoff spot. But they didn't and good teams don't play this inconsistently and fritter away points against those teams.
It's bad goaltending, dumb plays at critical moments, inability to put away grade A chances and, yes, bad coaching (never thought I'd be saying that about Sutter).
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02-28-2023, 11:16 PM
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#275
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: nexus of the universe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I think a goalie without a stick is more likely to stop a shot than a pass across on a two on one.
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You can move in close and fake a low shot. And the goalie basically has to commit to the butterfly early because he’s lost ability to cover fivehole without it.
Ideally the other guy can drive the far post, and if the D man doesn’t take him completely, a low shot far pad will generate an automatic rebound, again with no stick to deflect the puck up or away.
Horrendous decision by Huberdeau. Him not lifting his head to notice the stickless Ullmark makes a lot of sense for him though.
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02-28-2023, 11:23 PM
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#276
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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.844 save percentage in 11 games in February
That's just embarassing for Markstrom and Vladar.
3-4-4 record and in some ways thats remarkable with that horrendous of a save percentage.
Think it was -11 GSAA too...so it's like they spotted the other team a 1-0 lead every game.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 02-28-2023 at 11:28 PM.
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02-28-2023, 11:23 PM
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#277
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goriders
They probably have to go 15-6 down the stretch. 72% win percentage.
It’s over. Just accept it. Figure out who isn’t in the long term plan and get what you can for them. Audition young guys like Zary and Wolf.
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Nah bruv. It's pro-sports, following the team is fun ride, the downside consequences of being optimistic and hopeful are legitimately zero and I remain positive on the team construction. It's not over til it's over.
But you do. No one is holding you hostage. If you think the season is over, or aren't having fun, feel free to checkout and stop watching games for the rest of the season.
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02-28-2023, 11:23 PM
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#278
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess
Can't be that upset with that performance and effort. Just took one of the best teams in the league to OT and played well enough to win in regulation. You'll win a lot of games in a season if you play like that every night.
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Unfortunately, it turns out that you actually won't win that many games playing like that.
They have deserved better all year and it's just not coming together. I don't blame Tre for poor roster construction. I don't blame the coaching staff for bad strategy and tactics (not crazy about the lines earlier in the year). I don't blame the players for having too little effort or commitment. This is a weird, bad year and they should cut their losses and look ahead to next season. There is some great opportunity to build right now.
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02-28-2023, 11:24 PM
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#279
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
.844 save percentage in 11 games in February
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that has to be close to a modern day record in the NHL for two goalies to combine for a save percentage that low over the course of a month.
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02-28-2023, 11:26 PM
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#280
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
.844 save percentage in 11 games in February
That's just embarassing for Markstrom and Vladar.
3-4-4 record and in some ways thats remarkable with that horrendous of a save percentage.
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What a crazy stat.
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