2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[LGA]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Trading for Lindholm is the type of move that could net them a Stanley Cup. The acquisition cost should be astronomically high but likely worth it for the Avs. Problem with the Avs is that their 1st round picks are late and their prospect base isn't great at the moment.

Originally Posted by Sandman

Starts at Newhook+a first

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Either would be amazing as 2Cs there

Yes, even Backlund. 200 foot stud that elevates his linemates

Originally Posted by Flames1217

I agree.

Newhook, Foudy 2023 1st and another conditional pick.

I'd throw out Newhook, 23 and 24 1st and see where the negotiations go. Lindholm would fit in from a player perspective, but also add a defensive presence that the Avs don't have a ton of up front.

Based on what we've seen from the Flames ownership though, I don't think a deal based around futures would get things moving at all.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I'm hoping this happens today.

I don't think it will, but it would make me very happy.

Getting ass-pounded by Boston tonight should help expedite things.

[MrMike]

Lindholm at 50% retained would be worth at least 2 first round picks and a high end prospect.

2.42m for this year and next for a top line Selke center

Tofolli should net a nice return even without retention, his contract is amazing.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Bonded

No way the Flames retain for 6 years but if they are retaining I’d rather they use their slots on Lindholm, Toffoli, and Tanev

Flames have paid out around $14M in buyouts since 2009/2010.

This organization may not love to do it, but they have no problem carrying dead money - and they should not have this reputation that they won't spend money in such a manner. They have, I imagine they still will.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by LGA

I'd throw out Newhook, 23 and 24 1st and see where the negotiations go. Lindholm would fit in from a player perspective, but also add a defensive presence that the Avs don't have a ton of up front.

Based on what we've seen from the Flames ownership though, I don't think a deal based around futures would get things moving at all.

Futures can be just currency, like how St Louis was looking at flipping the picks they just got for Timo Mier.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Lindholm at 50% retained would be worth at least 2 first round picks and a high end prospect.

2.42m for this year and next for a top line Selke center

Tofolli should net a nice return even without retention, his contract is amazing.

I wouldn't mind sending him back to Carolina 50%retained for Jarvis and a 1st!

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I wouldn't mind sending him back to Carolina 50%retained for Jarvis and a 1st!

I like Jarvis more than Newhook….

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Flames have paid out around $14M in buyouts since 2009/2010.

This organization may not love to do it, but they have no problem carrying dead money - and they should not have this reputation that they won't spend money in such a manner. They have, I imagine they still will.

Yep, recall how they were going to eat Ribeiro's buy-out for assets.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I wouldn't mind sending him back to Carolina 50%retained for Jarvis and a 1st!

Carolina, or other teams aren't going to remove a valuable player off their current roster 1 for 1.

[Naitix]

If management wants a change:

Huby is not going anywhere, you need to build a team around him and play him with type of players that will benefit from playing with him and vice versa. I like Lindholm, I think he is a fantastic 2-way player but ideally we need a 1C who is better suited to play with Huby, more of a play driver. I do not see a point in resigning Lindholm at 8+ million as we would still be lacking a center that suits Huby. Lindholm can get an insane return at 50% retained, so I think priority is to try and trade him for a young center that suits the style that Huby likes to play with.

A trade with Avs makes too much sense to me. Lindholm at 50% for Newhook+. It does not needs to be Newhook, but you get the idea

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Lindholm, Hanifin, and Toffoli @ 50% retained.

Looking at what Jake friggen McCabe and Tanner Jeanot just got?

They’d be fools not to in this market.

In fact, selling right now is probably the best chance they have to see Huberdeau, Weegar and Kadri help them win a cup.

We do not need to retain on those great deals. The Flames might be smart and sell this deadline but the tankbuild is not happening anytime soon. They should sell to get assets and open up flexibility but this team is likely still committed to win around a core of Kadri, Huberdeau, Weegar, Anderson etc.

Creating cap flexibility and adding a bunch of picks is exactly how you make a deal like the Hamilton trade 8 years ago. Go get that RFA the other team can’t afford to sign

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Carolina, or other teams aren't going to remove a valuable player off their current roster 1 for 1.

OK. They can have tanev as well

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Getting ass-pounded by Boston tonight should help expedite things.

[Hockey_Ninja]

I honestly just hope that if they get moved, Backs and Lindy go to teams that I actually like. Would love to see either one in Colorado

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

We do not need to retain on those great deals. The Flames might be smart and sell this deadline but the tankbuild is not happening anytime soon. They should sell to get assets and open up flexibility but this team is likely still committed to win around a core of Kadri, Huberdeau, Weegar, Anderson etc.

Creating cap flexibility and adding a bunch of picks is exactly how you make a deal like the Hamilton trade 8 years ago. Go get that RFA the other team can’t afford to sign

I think you need to retain to make a TDL deal work. If you deal in the offseason when teams have more flexibility to rearrange their own rosters, you don't.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Can’t we finish bottom-10, and bribe Bettman to give us first overall in the lottery, like Katz did for the Oilers all those years? Like, c’mon Edwards, don’t be so cheap, we need Bedard!

Edwards IS supposedly close with Bettman and was one of the most influential owners in the CBA talks during the 2012 lockout. Time to throw us a bone

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

We do not need to retain on those great deals. The Flames might be smart and sell this deadline but the tankbuild is not happening anytime soon. They should sell to get assets and open up flexibility but this team is likely still committed to win around a core of Kadri, Huberdeau, Weegar, Anderson etc.

Creating cap flexibility and adding a bunch of picks is exactly how you make a deal like the Hamilton trade 8 years ago. Go get that RFA the other team can’t afford to sign

But cap space is an asset in and of itself. If you are willing to retain on any of these players, it opens up the market to other teams that might not be able to bid otherwise.

Lindholm at 4.85 is great. Lindholm at 50% retained is unbelievable. Lindholm at 1.2125 is the deal of the century.

[Ashes]

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[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

We do not need to retain on those great deals. The Flames might be smart and sell this deadline but the tankbuild is not happening anytime soon. They should sell to get assets and open up flexibility but this team is likely still committed to win around a core of Kadri, Huberdeau, Weegar, Anderson etc.

Creating cap flexibility and adding a bunch of picks is exactly how you make a deal like the Hamilton trade 8 years ago. Go get that RFA the other team can’t afford to sign

They do if they want to maximize their return.

If you have 29 year old Elias Lindholm giving you near-Selke level Centre play for Less than a max-bonus ELC, that’s worth more than Lindholm at nearly $5M, as capped out as everyone is.

In hindsight, the Hamilton trade was probably a mistake - drafting any one of Barzal, Chabot or Connor would’ve been more useful long term.

[Sec214]

Where is the dismissive crowd that says this cant happen during the season and this team wont rebuild/retool....