Practice Notes - Feb 27

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I find it interesting that the media is a little late to the math (hope)

Winnipeg now the target on a 97 point pace (.592)

To get to 98 points Calgary has to go 15-5-2 which is a .727 pace the rest of the way. If they lose both to Boston and Toronto in regulation they'll need to go 15-3-2 or .800

This is over isn't? Or am I being to cynical?

Yep, long over. The inconsistency, the inability to score and the poor goaltending have made it clear that this team is incapable of going on any kind of run that would allow them to make the playoffs. Even if they did, they'd be slapped silly.

[NewFan]

So 22 games left.

Hard: (may be loss) 0 points?
- Boston
- Toronto

Difficult: (50:50) 7 points?
- Dallas x 2
- Vegas x 2
- Los Angeles x 2
- Winnipeg

Winnable: 22 points from 26 possible?
- Anahiem x 3
- San Jose x 2
- Vancouver x 2
- Minnesota x 2
- Ottawa
- Arizona
- Nashville
- Chicago

29 points + 66 current = 95 possible?

[Toonage]

Literally all year the winnable games have been the hardest for this team to win. Why does that change now when there is actual pressure?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by NewFan

So 22 games left.

Hard: (may be loss) 0 points?
- Boston
- Toronto
- Anahiem x 3
- San Jose x 2
- Vancouver x 2
- Minnesota x 2
- Ottawa
- Arizona
- Nashville
- Chicago

Difficult: (50:50) 7 points?
- Dallas x 2
- Vegas x 2
- Los Angeles x 2
- Winnipeg

Winnable:

Fixed.

[Bingo]

I guess I just really want to get a start on some off season change with the prices we are seeing.

Imagine what a Chris Tanev and Tyler Toffoli would fetch.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Yep, long over. The inconsistency, the inability to score and the poor goaltending have made it clear that this team is incapable of going on any kind of run that would allow them to make the playoffs. Even if they did, they'd be slapped silly.

The team has a been a model of inconsistency this season.

I would have more hope if the team strung together some streaks this season, but its been a win a game lose a game surrender a lead and drop a game ot that's been our streak this season.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I guess I just really want to get a start on some off season change with the prices we are seeing.

Imagine what a Chris Tanev and Tyler Toffoli would fetch.

Throw Zadorov in the mix too. Would be really nice to capitalize on these assets now

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I guess I just really want to get a start on some off season change with the prices we are seeing.

Imagine what a Chris Tanev and Tyler Toffoli would fetch.

Two great contracts and two guys that would move the needle and are signed next season to good contacts.

They should fetch a 1st round pick in 2023 and a prospect each or if we want to load up on picks we could.

We could eat some salary as well in retentions to get a better package its only for 1 season.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The team has a been a model of inconsistency this season.

I would have more hope if the team strung together some streaks this season, but its been a win a game lose a game surrender a lead and drop a game ot that's been our streak this season.

They've had a 7 game and 5 game streak.


Oh, you meant WINNING streaks. Never mind.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

Throw Zadorov in the mix too. Would be really nice to capitalize on these assets now

I'd also take whatever we can get for Huberdeau, Kadri, Weegar and Markstrom too.

Orrr... do we just trade our coach for one who values (and knows how to coach) talent over grit?

(Not being facetious.)

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The team has a been a model of inconsistency this season.

I would have more hope if the team strung together some streaks this season, but its been a win a game lose a game surrender a lead and drop a game ot that's been our streak this season.

I would say that they have been the model of consistency all season. Consistently mediocre and utterly predictable in the results. That's what makes thinking it will change now when it is down to the final quarter of the season, isn't a safe bet.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I'd also take whatever we can get for Huberdeau, Kadri, Weegar and Markstrom too.

Orrr... do we just trade our coach for one who values (and knows how to coach) talent over grit?

(Not being facetious.)

I would seriously look at moving Kadri. Unless he is tired from the playoff run this is not what I expected from him. Forget the fact he has zero idea how to use his linemates, but the guy has played with zero fire all season. Looks like he wants to challenge for the Lady Byng.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I'd also take whatever we can get for Huberdeau, Kadri, Weegar and Markstrom too.

I can't see anyone taking Markstrom. There is no team going into the playoffs where he is an upgrade for them. If he was, they wouldn't be going into the playoffs. Maybe in the off season, a team will take a chance on resurrecting him.

I think Huberdeau probably has negative value at this point considering a team would be acquiring an $84 million contract after a year where he was terrible. He is only 1 year removed from a 100 point season, so someone might be willing to take him, but we'd likely have to take back another bad contract. I guess that is the thing to consider. Would it be better to have a guaranteed anchor, but with less overall cap hit and term, or would it be better to bet on Huberdeau turning it around but risking an even worse anchor.

As for Kadri, I think he actually has some value. Everyone knew his point totals would go down, but i don't think his contract is that outrageous and his production has been fine. It would likely be better on a better team.

[Ashasx]

Kadri has had exactly one star point producing season in the last 5 years, and he will be 33 next season.

He is literally performing up to his average, outside of the outlier year last year.

Nobody should have been fooled.

[NewFan]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I would say that they have been the model of consistency all season. Consistently mediocre and utterly predictable in the results. That's what makes thinking it will change now when it is down to the final quarter of the season, isn't a safe bet.

Don't worry guys, This team is old but veteran experienced team with expert coach. They know that the first 60 games are just a waste of energy. The season starts at last 22 games. Everybody knows it and they will have 20 games winning streak until the end of season then 16 winning streak in the playoffs.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by NewFan

So 22 games left.

Hard: (may be loss) 0 points?
- Boston
- Toronto

Difficult: (50:50) 7 points?
- Dallas x 2
- Vegas x 2
- Los Angeles x 2
- Winnipeg

Winnable: 22 points from 26 possible?
- Anahiem x 3
- San Jose x 2
- Vancouver x 2
- Minnesota x 2
- Ottawa
- Arizona
- Nashville
- Chicago

29 points + 66 current = 95 possible?

The Flames depends on one of the teams above them to totally collapse.

They are mathematically not eliminated but logically already eliminated based on their own performance

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Yep, long over. The inconsistency, the inability to score and the poor goaltending have made it clear that this team is incapable of going on any kind of run that would allow them to make the playoffs. Even if they did, they'd be slapped silly.

MoneyPuck still has the Flames at 72% for making the playoffs.
Hockey Reference is much lower at 38%.

I wouldn't say it's long over, since only one of Minnesota, Seattle, Edmonton and Winnipeg needs to fall out.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The Flames depends on one of the teams above them to totally collapse.

They are mathematically not eliminated but logically already eliminated based on their own performance

Teams are collapsing...they need to win games

See Seattle and Winnepeg

[Flamesfan05]

Only Seattle could have a remote chance of totally collapsing because their goalies are bad and they are a new team

Oilers could but McDrai feast on bad teams so they’ll win some

[dino7c]

Oilers and Jets have 4 wins in their last 10
Seattle has 3

Bottom line is the Flames need a win streak though