2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Can he pick up from where he left off? It took years to reach it.

Does he even come back to North America, or professional hockey?

Don't know. Frankly this quote from BT is a little unsettling:

"We just continue to hope for the best for him".

That underscores that it sounds pretty serious. Hope whatever it is he and his family are OK or will be OK. A return to hockey and the Flames is just gravy.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Markstrom has a full no move and is a father to a new born.

I’ll go out on a limb and say he would reject a trade, any trade. Especially to Ottawa.

Might be open to a change though. Just to see if he can reset himself.

[dammage79]

Might have to attach a pick to Marky to move him. Woof.

[Moneyhands23]

Trade anyone over 27 u can.

[Moneyhands23]

I like dill dube

[Buff]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Markstrom has a full no move and is a father to a new born.

I’ll go out on a limb and say he would reject a trade, any trade. Especially to Ottawa.

We'd like to get away from that contract but Vladar is the one to move. He's more affordable and has another year after this. Move Vladar either for or to make room for Talbot, a pending UFA and suddenly you have a spot for Wolf to lose next year.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Might be open to a change though. Just to see if he can reset himself.

Perhaps. Seems to me this one’s for the offseason though.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Buff

We'd like to get away from that contract but Vladar is the one to move. He's more affordable and has another year after this. Move Vladar either for or to make room for Talbot, a pending UFA and suddenly you have a spot for Wolf to lose next year.

One thing to bear in mind is goalies haven’t been going for much, recently. fleury went for a 2nd, after winning the Vezina.

Considering his full NMC he’s likely going to have a pretty specific criteria he would expect/want if he were to accept a trade. The Flames would be lucky, frankly, to get any reasonable return.

I think it’s much more likely Markstrom is back next year. Vladar, given his contract, might be the more movable asset. That said, I don’t think the Flames will move him before the TDL. They will need him if they want to make the playoffs.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Perhaps his plan is not to run 3 goalies.

Well in that case it most likely means trading Vladar for Talbot, which doesn't seem like that much of an upgrade. Markstrom has a NMC, and I doubt he waives it.

[Badgers Nose]

Term, dollars and NMC - is BT good at anything?

[ComixZone]

I think that the fact that this team doesn't have any good expiring UFAs, and is largely cap-locked next season speaks to just how poorly this roster has been constructed.

This team has come full circle. They're back in cap-jail, not a playoff team, and have a bottom-half prospect pool. Wonderful conclusion to nearly a decade of rubbish.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm working on an Idea how Talbot makes sense.

To OTTAWA:
Marky
Hanifin

To CGY:
Talbot
DeBrincat?

Markstrom is probably worth two negative firsts. Cap inefficiency, when combined with age, has tremendous negative value. This trade doesn’t make sense from Ottawa’s perspective.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I think that the fact that this team doesn't have any good expiring UFAs, and is largely cap-locked next season speaks to just how poorly this roster has been constructed.

This team has come full circle. They're back in cap-jail, not a playoff team, and have a bottom-half prospect pool. Wonderful conclusion to nearly a decade of rubbish.

So fitting that we were last in this spot exactly 10 years ago

In that time: 5 playoff appearances (3 first round exits, 2 second round exits), 2 division championships, and some individual player awards

Pretty mixed bag with limited success and it ends on a sour note with your two superstars taking off for US homes

Lone bright side is they might have a few good prospects to work with at least

At that time it was just Sven

What worse than last time is the old stars can't be traded anywhere

So I guess it evens out..

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Psytic

My memory might be hazy but didn't Brian Elliot have a meltdown against the Ducks? Talbot a meltdown against Dallas. Markstrom a meltdown against the Oil. Are all goalies that come in here mentally weak or do the Flames have really poor goalie coaching staff not capable of settling them down and pointing out where the mistakes are being made? Seems like too many meltdowns over the years to be just a coincidence.

This a million times

I'd love some internal accountability instead of just rotating the goaltending carousel again

The goalies are different. The pattern is the same

What is systemically wrong with the Flames around their goaltending

They need a deep inquiry into this and then to go completely scorched earth

Attack the problem at its root

Please don't ####ing promote it and give it more responsibilities (J. Sigalet)

[Angelino]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I think that the fact that this team doesn't have any good expiring UFAs, and is largely cap-locked next season speaks to just how poorly this roster has been constructed.

This team has come full circle. They're back in cap-jail, not a playoff team, and have a bottom-half prospect pool. Wonderful conclusion to nearly a decade of rubbish.

I’m wondering if Treliving will trade more picks and prospects to make the playoffs and try to save his job. Reminds me of a desperate dictator shooting off the last bullets trying to save his life.

When you’ve already dug 6 feet down whats another couple of feet?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Angelino

I’m wondering if Treliving will trade more picks and prospects to make the playoffs and try to save his job. Reminds me of a desperate dictator shooting off the last bullets trying to save his life.

When you’ve already dug 6 feet down whats another couple of feet?

I highly doubt it. Come deadline day flames could easily be 7 points out.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I think that the fact that this team doesn't have any good expiring UFAs, and is largely cap-locked next season speaks to just how poorly this roster has been constructed.

This team has come full circle. They're back in cap-jail, not a playoff team, and have a bottom-half prospect pool. Wonderful conclusion to nearly a decade of rubbish.

That's what I said when they originally signed Kadri and Huberdeau to those long term deals. Certainly it was a worst case scenario to see the team this bad this early into those contracts, but those two combined with the already aging other contracts just meant a terrible situation in cap hell down the road. Most others shat down saying Treliving deserves the key to the city to sign those two to the long term deals, but how wrong they were. He did an amazing trade, but he made a terrible mistake giving long term deals to guys that much older. Huberdeau can still be dealt I'd think considering the potential is still there. I don't think either of those guys are untradable but I think contracts like Markstrom now are. Two years of dog crap has shown he is what he is. Even guys like Coleman are stuck here. I don't know what you do aside from rebuild the best way you can by giving some young guys chances where warranted.

[Monahammer]

Seems to me like treliving is being realistic. Highly possible that ownership has different opinions about trying to compete this year. Sell is the best course of action, and really the only one that approaches sense, unless you're driven entirely by the illusion of short term profits via 2 playoff games.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I highly doubt it. Come deadline day flames could easily be 7 points out.

I think come the 3rd it might be more than that. We play Boston and Toronto while Minnesota has Columbus, Vancouver and the Islanders. Could be more like 8 or 10 back. Seattle has the Redwings, blues and toronto. Both teams have games at hand.

I think the next 2 game will bury the Flames. They’ve blown too many opportunities this season. Now is when the math will catch up with them.

I think they’ll get to 90 points and you’re going to need 95 to 97 to get in. Which means they’ll need a .700 winning percentage. Which isn’t happening.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I think that the fact that this team doesn't have any good expiring UFAs, and is largely cap-locked next season speaks to just how poorly this roster has been constructed.

This team has come full circle. They're back in cap-jail, not a playoff team, and have a bottom-half prospect pool. Wonderful conclusion to nearly a decade of rubbish.

So, this team’s roster is poorly constructed because we don’t have any expiring UFA’s this season? That’s an interesting argument, would like to hear more.

IIRC, we had a pretty good player who hit UFA status last year. We also have six UFA’s expiring at the end of next season. In a year from now are you going to be praising Treliving? If all goes according to your vision we will have an additional seven 1st rounds picks + and all will be well, right?