Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Fuzz]

China thinks they are being crafty here, but they are really doing themselves and Chinese Canadians a huge disservice. All this does is breed xenophobia and hatred. It will mean much more scrutiny for them to get political nominations, which damages our multiculturalism and diverse representation. If I were a Chinese Canadian I'd be pissed at China doing this. #### off, China(government, if it has to be said).

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Azure

How is it not treason? To know about it and do nothing?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1629315684634165249

There obviously needs to be an inquiry where the liberals aren’t shielded by the NDP.

However if the RCMP didn’t charge these MPs with either electoral fraud or some sort of treason charge or other charge what should the government action be.

Is suspicion of foreign influence that is insufficient to bring criminal charges and automatic kick out? The answer is probably yes but it’s interesting that no one was ever charged in this.

@scoopercooper
10 In the alleged briefing, the Service did not provide details of their ongoing investigations into Michael Chan and Han Dong, but outlined two major allegations to support their recommendation, sources aware of the intelligence said.

The more worrying part is that the liberals appear to have been made aware that their nomination process allowing for non-citizens to participate was being targeted and did nothing between 2019 and 2021.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by Yoho

And not a peep about it from the state broadcaster CBC.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1629424461094047744

https://twitter.com/user/status/1629455704972034049

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2174027331713

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...rate-1.6758179

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chi...lyst-1.6752577

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/com...ence-1.6755786

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/com...ence-1.6755786

[Maritime Q-Scout]

The CBC might not have marshmallow treats about the story but they have been reporting about it

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...rate-1.6758179

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/frontburner...ript-1.6757557

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2173676611768

www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6752577

[Azure]

Originally Posted by GGG

There obviously needs to be an inquiry where the liberals aren’t shielded by the NDP.

However if the RCMP didn’t charge these MPs with either electoral fraud or some sort of treason charge or other charge what should the government action be.

Is suspicion of foreign influence that is insufficient to bring criminal charges and automatic kick out? The answer is probably yes but it’s interesting that no one was ever charged in this.


The more worrying part is that the liberals appear to have been made aware that their nomination process allowing for non-citizens to participate was being targeted and did nothing between 2019 and 2021.

Like you said, there are two major issues here.

The illegal part of all of this, and how the RCMP should deal with it. Did they even know? Were they briefed by the PMO or CSIS about these issues? Not sure.

Secondly, the fact that the Liberals knew about this, and literally did nothing. They didn't run it up or down the chain, didn't block a nomination, didn't go public, nothing. And now when it goes public, they are STILL stonewalling it as much as they can.

Which begs the question, what else are they trying to hide?

The PM has had ZERO reason to not deal with this from the start. You want be a MP in in the Liberal Party and be in bed with the Chinese? See yah. But instead they buried it and then lied that they were told about it.

Honestly, the Martin Liberals fell for a lot less.
What will it take with this government?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Azure

Like you said, there are two major issues here.

The illegal part of all of this, and how the RCMP should deal with it. Did they even know? Were they briefed by the PMO or CSIS about these issues? Not sure.

Secondly, the fact that the Liberals knew about this, and literally did nothing. They didn't run it up or down the chain, didn't block a nomination, didn't go public, nothing. And now when it goes public, they are STILL stonewalling it as much as they can.

Which begs the question, what else are they trying to hide?

The PM has had ZERO reason to not deal with this from the start. You want be a MP in in the Liberal Party and be in bed with the Chinese? See yah. But instead they buried it and then lied that they were told about it.

Honestly, the Martin Liberals fell for a lot less.
What will it take with this government?

In parallel to this was the Huwaii afair, the two Michaels, and the Winnipeg Bio Lab. At least with the two Michaels and Huwaii the government did not appear compromised.

As to what will bring down this government? A credible alternative where people don’t have to vote for nazi sympathizers.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1629262202229096450

Bang on.

That CSIS agent that brought this to the light of day is a Canadian hero.

[dsavillian]

I wish my twitter blocks carried over into the tweets shared on the forum.

[iggy_oi]

Mike Myers was clearly working for the CCP

[CaptainCrunch]

I wonder what's going to hit next. It feels like whoever is leaking at CSIS is almost doing a slow leak.

We got the original story,

Then suddenly we get the first name. Is there going to be a slow release of the other 10 that the report talked about?

[Slava]

Originally Posted by GGG

There obviously needs to be an inquiry where the liberals aren’t shielded by the NDP.

However if the RCMP didn’t charge these MPs with either electoral fraud or some sort of treason charge or other charge what should the government action be.

Is suspicion of foreign influence that is insufficient to bring criminal charges and automatic kick out? The answer is probably yes but it’s interesting that no one was ever charged in this.



The more worrying part is that the liberals appear to have been made aware that their nomination process allowing for non-citizens to participate was being targeted and did nothing between 2019 and 2021.

Wel what should happen is an open public enquiry. It's appalling that the Liberals and NDP are working to avoid this.

[Azure]

There is a specific reason they are avoiding it though.

Likely because they are scared of what else will come out?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by GGG

In parallel to this was the Huwaii afair, the two Michaels, and the Winnipeg Bio Lab. At least with the two Michaels and Huwaii the government did not appear compromised.

As to what will bring down this government? A credible alternative where people don’t have to vote for nazi sympathizers.

Your point is irrelevant. This all happened years before PP was on the scene as the leader of the CPC. The Liberal Party has literally been compromised for years.

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by Azure

Your point is irrelevant. This all happened years before PP was on the scene as the leader of the CPC. The Liberal Party has literally been compromised for years.

Azure being comfortable voting alongside Nazi sympathizers is irrelevant. Interesting.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Izzle

Azure being comfortable voting alongside Nazi sympathizers is irrelevant. Interesting.

He must be trying to keep up with the Deputy Prime minister.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1498802802453323781

https://twitter.com/user/status/1498345834731216899

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

That was almost a year ago, someone pushed the scarf in front of her, she has since condemned it. You've had a year to find that information. Stuff like this is why you're a political hack idiot and not some genius troll.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fre...carf-1.6372995

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Slava

Wel what should happen is an open public enquiry. It's appalling that the Liberals and NDP are working to avoid this.

They don't want an inquiry because they can't control an inquiry and its out in public.

In committee the Libs and NDP can vote to have it put behind closed doors. Vote to not do a public release. They can vote to not add witnesses. Or as we've seen before vote to shut the committee down, or burn the clock on it.

So yeah Trudeau doesn't want an inquiry.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Azure

There is a specific reason they are avoiding it though.

Likely because they are scared of what else will come out?

That and who knows how many sitting MPs are there because of CCP influence, funding and strategies? It's pretty poor look, to say the least.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

That was almost a year ago, someone pushed the scarf in front of her, she has since condemned it. You've had a year to find that information. Stuff like this is why you're a political hack idiot and not some genius troll.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fre...carf-1.6372995

One post is just as ridiculous as the other.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Azure

There is a specific reason they are avoiding it though.

Likely because they are scared of what else will come out?

You think Trudeau colluded with the Chinese to get a minority government?