02-25-2023, 09:38 AM
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#1
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Kane to NYR agreed to. Just a matter of making the salary cap work.
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02-25-2023, 09:39 AM
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#2
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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The Rangers will look scary good after this.
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02-25-2023, 09:40 AM
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#3
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Lifetime Suspension
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Awesome.
Any teams that are loading up that keeps the Oilers and Leafs away from the cup I am all for it.
I wish we could loan players like in Soccer. I'd give Boston Lindholm for the rest of the season.
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02-25-2023, 09:57 AM
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#4
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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If anyone wants to keep up with the rangers, overpay for guys with term.
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02-25-2023, 09:59 AM
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#5
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I doubt Edmonton was ever in the running for Kane.
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02-25-2023, 10:03 AM
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#6
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First Line Centre
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Ugh this double retention crap just absolutely murders the spirit of the cap.
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02-25-2023, 10:05 AM
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#7
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
Ugh this double retention crap just absolutely murders the spirit of the cap.
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It's innovation. Good work by teams to start thinking outside the box.
The NHL can solve this by not having dumpster fire teams like Arizona in the league anymore.
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02-25-2023, 10:06 AM
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#8
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Powerplay Quarterback
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This is bad for the league. More and more- small market teams will stop being competitive at all. Like the NBA.
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02-25-2023, 10:08 AM
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#9
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
This is bad for the league. More and more- small market teams will stop being competitive at all. Like the NBA.
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Angry oiler fan
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02-25-2023, 10:10 AM
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#10
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Lifetime Suspension
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You can't be in on a player if the player doesn't want to play for you.
Kind of like Heatley they even went to his cabin to beg him to waive and he still said no lol.
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02-25-2023, 10:17 AM
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#11
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
This is bad for the league. More and more- small market teams will stop being competitive at all. Like the NBA.
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Why? Small market teams are capitalizing on low dollar cap space and getting assets. The Rangers and teams like them, for all their bluster, rarely achieve success with these moves. And if they do, they operate under the same cap constraints the next season as anyone else. Such a whiney and insubstantial post.
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02-25-2023, 10:26 AM
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#12
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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can't go more "all in" than adding Tarasenko and Kane ... interesting too, given how good Boston has been.
really curious about the return and the added wrinkles in this one. Looks like a complicated deal on several fronts.
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02-25-2023, 10:33 AM
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#13
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Lifetime Suspension
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Salty Oiler fans haha.
I thought people wanted to play for free to be with his greatness.
Someone even suggest in the summer Evander Kane took a discount to play for the Oilers when he tested free agency and no one wanted him.
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02-25-2023, 10:33 AM
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#14
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Major
Why? Small market teams are capitalizing on low dollar cap space and getting assets. The Rangers and teams like them, for all their bluster, rarely achieve success with these moves. And if they do, they operate under the same cap constraints the next season as anyone else. Such a whiney and insubstantial post.
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Not true.
Just because they are the NYR.
Adam Fox
Vlad Tarasenko
Patrick Kane
Artemi Panarin
These were all players who chose (or will choose in case of Kane) to go there because of playing in New York and for the Rangers in Manhattan. These are no schlubs.
Boston-
Krejci - $1M
Bergeron - $2.5M
Both took less so that the team could load up. Because why? Boston.
If you look around just in popular culture- it already started happening in the NBA 15 years ago.
Since the Spurs won the NBA title in 2005, it has been won by:
- GSW x 4
- Miami x 3
- Lakers x 3
- Dallas x 1
- Spurs x 1
- Cleveland x 1
- Toronto x 1
- Milwaukee x 1
Out of all those championships, the only cities I would consider not a major market are Dallas, San Antonio, Cleveland, Milwaukee. That's 4 out of 15 championships. Cleveland really only won because of Lebron and his ability to attract star players so it's really only 3 teams in 15 years. I see a stretch of this happening in the NHL as it goes down this path where star players decide to team up with other star players in major cities while taking discounts etc. Now that this double retention trade is out of the bag, the trade deadline will never be the same. These major market teams will continuously load up at the deadline with star players.
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02-25-2023, 10:36 AM
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#15
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Powerplay Quarterback
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This is literally the Flames equivalent of having a core based around Gaudreau, Tkachuk and Fox.
And then along come Tarasenko and Kane at the deadline. This would never have happened because Calgary is no New York.
So anyone arguing "same salary cap etc"- that argument is nonsensical.
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02-25-2023, 10:38 AM
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#16
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Franchise Player
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Meh, if it's bad for the oilers I'll allow it.
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02-25-2023, 10:40 AM
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#17
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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It's not the same because Kane didn't say "I want to play for a small market team" he's. Ade.it clear he will only go to NYR. The Flames could offer 5 first round picks but he won't come here.
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02-25-2023, 10:41 AM
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#18
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
This is literally the Flames equivalent of having a core based around Gaudreau, Tkachuk and Fox.
And then along come Tarasenko and Kane at the deadline. This would never have happened because Calgary is no New York.
So anyone arguing "same salary cap etc"- that argument is nonsensical.
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In this case, it is a player using his No Movement Clause. Although, there are a lot of good reasons to debate whether NMCs are good for the NHL or not. NMC and NTC does favor popular teams and cities and obviously it does favor players over the teams
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02-25-2023, 10:41 AM
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#19
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Panarin isn’t a great example because he certainly didn’t take a discount to go there. Unless you aren’t trying to complain about salary cap loopholes.
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02-25-2023, 10:42 AM
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#20
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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The league can’t force players to play where they don’t want to. Not sure what the problem is as the Rangers have had this benefit for 30 years and only have one cup to show for it.
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