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Old 02-14-2023, 10:16 PM   #841
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Spoilers for substantial behind the scenes that some people might want to avoid.

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Was thinking about the way they expanded this whole part of the story, including Kathleen and the fall of the Kansas City QZ... it occurs to me that the show took it pretty dark. First, Henry makes a decision to save one person - Sam - putting his brother's life above what even he sees as right and wrong. This results in Kathleen taking over the resistance, and simultaneously the death of Michael is a galvanizing event that ultimately leads to the overthrow of FEDRA and the end of the QZ, now replaced by the "people". But - still motivated entirely by Henry's betrayal - she ignores what would actually be the right thing to do for those people and is entirely bent on revenge. This leads to the death of literally everyone, including her, and ultimately leads to Henry having to kill Sam (or what's left of him) and then himself.

If you treat this arc like a morality play then the message would seem to be that by putting your family first and acting out of love without regard for the consequences, you just might end up dooming everyone.

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Old 02-14-2023, 10:40 PM   #843
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Holy ****, just realizing that the "town" they built in foothills industrial was the street featured in Episode 5 for the big showdown and subsequent zombie scene. So cool. I watched that street go up over the course of a couple of weeks and thought "Wow, the budget on this show must be insane.
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Old 02-14-2023, 10:57 PM   #844
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Was thinking about the way they expanded this whole part of the story, including Kathleen and the fall of the Kansas City QZ... it occurs to me that the show took it pretty dark. First, Henry makes a decision to save one person - Sam - putting his brother's life above what even he sees as right and wrong. This results in Kathleen taking over the resistance, and simultaneously the death of Michael is a galvanizing event that ultimately leads to the overthrow of FEDRA and the end of the QZ, now replaced by the "people". But - still motivated entirely by Henry's betrayal - she ignores what would actually be the right thing to do for those people and is entirely bent on revenge. This leads to the death of literally everyone, including her, and ultimately leads to Henry having to kill Sam (or what's left of him) and then himself.

If you treat this arc like a morality play then the message would seem to be that by putting your family first and acting out of love without regard for the consequences, you just might end up dooming everyone.
You could almost do a separate series that could explore that storyline in KC. In hindsight, I don't mind Kathleen being written and acted as a non-prototypical end of the world leader. She was able to accomplish what she did because she stopped giving a #### about anybody else. That she was a bit crazy, like school teacher that had lost her humanity and could easily condemn an entire room of human beings to death. People followed her because she was exactly that and followed her excesses in the overthrow of FEDRA; to become just like them in order to beat them.

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Old 02-15-2023, 05:49 PM   #845
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If you treat this arc like a morality play then the message would seem to be that by putting your family first and acting out of love without regard for the consequences, you just might end up dooming everyone.

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Everything in this show is purposely done to parallel the main game arcs. Like how Bill's character in the show was set up as a parallel to Joel - someone who hated the world but found something to protect.
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Old 02-16-2023, 03:47 PM   #846
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Pretty neat article.

Keivonn Woodard, the little kid who plays Sam is a deaf hockey player.

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He has a American Sign Language interpreter at his games/practices, and the rink has a special lighting system to help him with stoppages and line changes funded by a grant from the Washington Capitals.

Unfortunately, his dad died very recently.

The below part was pretty neat though.

Keivonn spent three months in Calgary filming "The Last of Us" in early 2022, Mazin said.

The show gave Keivonn and his mother a list of nearby rinks if he wanted to go skating or play hockey, but there wasn't enough time until her son wrapped up shooting his scenes, his mother said.

"Keivonn's driver had a son who actually played hockey and he said, 'Hey, you can join my kid's team and play with them,'" Jackson-Woodard said. "He was just so excited to play. It was like a kid eating ice cream."




https://www.nhl.com/web/news/the-las...?tid=277350296



the kid did a wonderful job.
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Old 02-19-2023, 08:01 PM   #847
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The Bow River shall henceforth be known as "The River of Death".
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Old 02-19-2023, 08:18 PM   #848
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They wouldn't have even needed to shut down SAIT for those shoots, just walk through campus on a Saturday morning and it's that dead.
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I geeked out a bit when I saw SAIT I’m not gonna lie
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Not trying to antagonize those with complaints over Bella Ramsey, but after that episode she is now my favourite part of the show. Her wit and attitude is just fantastic in a broken down society where 98% of the characters are cynical, hardened, wary adults.

She's perfect for the role and starting to take over a bit, imo.
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SAIT and mount royal!

Interesting to see a man getting murdered on the path I frequently walked to/from class

Parts of the mountain fort were Banff Ave right?
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Old 02-19-2023, 09:18 PM   #852
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This was an excellent episode, but also the most excited I've been for figuring out locations, for sure. I was thinking Canmore Tommy's town, but maybe Banff?
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This was an excellent episode, but also the most excited I've been for figuring out locations, for sure. I was thinking Canmore Tommy's town, but maybe Banff?
You might be right. On second thought it could've been the main drag in canmore. I thought banff, but noticed the buildings in the background were too small

Think I spotted the grizzly paw pub windows in one shot
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Old 02-19-2023, 09:28 PM   #854
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SAIT and mount royal!



Interesting to see a man getting murdered on the path I frequently walked to/from class



Parts of the mountain fort were Banff Ave right?
I think I spotted the King Eddie Hotel/former Banff Hard Rock Cafe (can't recall what's there now) in a few scenes
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Old 02-19-2023, 09:37 PM   #855
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It was definitely Canmore, outside here:

https://goo.gl/maps/t1eLaKf6DmEe2aVg6

Settlers Cabin is just down the street. I recognized many locations, including this one, steps from where I grew up:
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Either way, Alberta shows itself well in this series. Like if I wasn't from here and saw the scenes of them setting out across the Rockies/Bow River I'd legitimatley be going "Okay, where the **** is that? That's stunning!".
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Great episode. Some great views of Yamnuska and Ha Ling Peak. Lots of familiar places, so cool.
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If you didn't yell out Yamnuska at that nice big shot of the rock face, you weren't born and raised here

Or Stegasaurus, either one qualifies
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Old 02-19-2023, 10:01 PM   #859
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Cool episode. I like how they get from where they were to now without the "video game" play of murdering more people than you can stuff standing room only in an Arby's.

They really hit a lot of beats from the game but they continue to make it their own. They did a great job with the confrontation between Ellie and Joel.

And spoilers for the games (including the second one).

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