02-14-2023, 11:05 PM
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#581
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by GGG
Calling it drag story time is kind of misleading. Why does it need to be gendered at all. Just calling it Princess story time where people dressed as princesses read stories to kids. No one would be angry once they stop flaunting the drag part right ……
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They should rename it because the uneducated hoards can't spend 2 minutes and figure it out for themselves? Why do they need to be coddled so much? Did they literally run out of legitimate things to be angry about?
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02-15-2023, 11:30 AM
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#582
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Dude we had the magic man. Prob a better player than Fleury ever was anyways.
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Fleury has gone if the rails, no doubt but in no universe was he a better hockey player than Fleury. Ridiculous take.
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02-15-2023, 02:27 PM
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#583
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Fleury has gone if the rails, no doubt but in no universe was he a better hockey player than Fleury. Ridiculous take.
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Not that ridiculous. Nilsson was a floater and disinterested much of his time on the ice, but when he was engaged he was the best player on the planet. Gretzky said as much about the universe he was playing in. Fleury was a good player, but there is a reason losing followed him around. People hated playing with Fleury because he was a terrible person and that affected his teams. There's a reason why the Flames haven't moved on Fleury's number retirement. They knew what poor character he had and it was only a matter of time before he would let that show and be an embarrassment to the club. His play was exceptional, but so was his character. Just at opposite ends of the spectrum.
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02-15-2023, 03:27 PM
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#584
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Not that ridiculous. Nilsson was a floater and disinterested much of his time on the ice, but when he was engaged he was the best player on the planet. Gretzky said as much about the universe he was playing in. Fleury was a good player, but there is a reason losing followed him around. People hated playing with Fleury because he was a terrible person and that affected his teams. There's a reason why the Flames haven't moved on Fleury's number retirement. They knew what poor character he had and it was only a matter of time before he would let that show and be an embarrassment to the club. His play was exceptional, but so was his character. Just at opposite ends of the spectrum.
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There are plenty of players with massive talent that never make it, Nilsson wouldn't survive 3 seasons in todays NHL, Fleury was a great talent but his career ended with a broken brain.
Flames/Sutter talked the league into allowing Fleury his pension, that's enough, start using #14 again and put this to bed.
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02-15-2023, 03:47 PM
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#585
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
There are plenty of players with massive talent that never make it, Nilsson wouldn't survive 3 seasons in todays NHL, Fleury was a great talent but his career ended with a broken brain.
Flames/Sutter talked the league into allowing Fleury his pension, that's enough, start using #14 again and put this to bed.
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lol he had 131 points playing half his games in the Corral.
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02-15-2023, 03:48 PM
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#586
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
There are plenty of players with massive talent that never make it, Nilsson wouldn't survive 3 seasons in todays NHL
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Definitely not playing under Sutter and not at age 66! Hyperbole aside, if Evgeny Kuznetsov can carve out a decade long career in today's NHL, Nilsson would be fine.
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Flames/Sutter talked the league into allowing Fleury his pension, that's enough, start using #14 again and put this to bed.
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Agreed. Throw the number back into circulation and get past this mess. Give it to some kid on the bubble who is going to be in and out of the lineup and get people used to the idea.
Last edited by Lanny_McDonald; 02-15-2023 at 03:50 PM.
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02-15-2023, 04:00 PM
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#587
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Franchise Player
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At this point, nobody even wants your crappy number Theoren.
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02-15-2023, 04:05 PM
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#588
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by tvp2003
At this point, nobody even wants your crappy number Theoren.
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Maybe that is his goal? Make it so toxic it is de-facto retired?
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02-15-2023, 05:00 PM
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#589
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Maybe that is his goal? Make it so toxic it is de-facto retired?
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You're giving his brain cells too much credit.
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02-15-2023, 07:24 PM
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#590
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Flames/Sutter talked the league into allowing Fleury his pension, that's enough, start using #14 again and put this to bed.
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What's the story here? Why wasn't he getting his pension?
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02-15-2023, 07:29 PM
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#591
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
What's the story here? Why wasn't he getting his pension?
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He was still technically suspended because he did not complete the league's substance abuse program. Went on for years.
Until he finally met the requirements for reinstatement..
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02-15-2023, 07:48 PM
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#592
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First Line Centre
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^Yes, Fleury was suspended indefinitely in 2003 for violating the terms of the NHL/NHLPA substance abuse recovery program. While suspended he could not officially file retirement papers with the league's central office, thus he was ineligible to collect the pension.
To have his suspension lifted he needed to petition for reinstatement by Gary Bettman and league doctors. Which he did in 2009. The requirements were essentially that he complete the recovery program.
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02-15-2023, 08:04 PM
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#593
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CGY
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Did he have to play those pre-season games as part of it as well? Or was that just a genius move to get playoff revenue from a pre-season game?
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02-15-2023, 08:05 PM
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#594
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Locke
We should re-sign Krys Kolanos so he can retire a Flame and give him #14.
Or maybe Jamie Lundmark? Give 'em #14 and then 'Forever a Flame' them and that way you free up the number!
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Blake Comeau should be retired as #14 one the greats.
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02-15-2023, 08:46 PM
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#595
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
He was still technically suspended because he did not complete the league's substance abuse program. Went on for years.
Until he finally met the requirements for reinstatement..
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Originally Posted by timun
^Yes, Fleury was suspended indefinitely in 2003 for violating the terms of the NHL/NHLPA substance abuse recovery program. While suspended he could not officially file retirement papers with the league's central office, thus he was ineligible to collect the pension.
To have his suspension lifted he needed to petition for reinstatement by Gary Bettman and league doctors. Which he did in 2009. The requirements were essentially that he complete the recovery program.
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Interesting; at first glance that seems odd, but I guess it makes sense that it could delayed for that reason (but presumably the player or their beneficiaries wouldn't lost the benefit forever)
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02-15-2023, 10:58 PM
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#596
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Agreed. Throw the number back into circulation and get past this mess. Give it to some kid on the bubble who is going to be in and out of the lineup and get people used to the idea.
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The next EBUG.
If a goalie can wear 19 or 25, then 14 is perfectly fine.
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02-18-2023, 12:09 PM
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#597
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Scoring Winger
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Theo Fleury @TheoFleury14
The New World Order which you are a full fledge member of created a fake pandemic to coerce and manipulate people into taking a gain of function bio weapon. The truckers showed up and you panicked because it was a detriment to your mass depopulation agenda.
https://twitter.com/theofleury14/sta...177463299?s=21
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02-18-2023, 12:20 PM
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#599
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Uncle Chester
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And yet, organizations continue to hire this twat to come speak at their functions. I'm always amazed at this.
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02-18-2023, 12:31 PM
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#600
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by SportsJunky
And yet, organizations continue to hire this twat to come speak at their functions. I'm always amazed at this.
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Yup, some people are so brain dead they think this guy is worth having a conversation with.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1547319120349188096
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