02-14-2023, 09:00 AM
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Norm!
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We're born, we live, we suffer, we die, we rot.
Life is the ultimate cruel joke that in the grand scheme of things, is meaningless.
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02-14-2023, 09:06 AM
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#22
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damn onions
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I don't agree that we know whether or not life is meaningless, even if it is contained within this life.
I think we just don't know. I also think that's ok, and this fact therefore means that it is up to the individual to find their own meaning in life, suitable to them personally.
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02-14-2023, 09:16 AM
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Depends what is defined as life. If it's merely continuing to "tick/vibrate" and exist in a detectable manner in this dimension, then yes/no. After a certain point we cease to control our body in this dimension and we are reabsorbed by other things in this dimension. (ie: A mindless cell absorbed by another). And yet, because somethings don't really get reabsorbed, but do cease, but still have the ability to convey information later on millions of years later (ie: A fossil, frozen #### in space etc.) what is that?
Now if we mean cognitive functions and awareness, then... I don't know. The fact of the matter is, there are certain things that we don't understand. Our minds have become these super complex chemicals and signals and patterns that can create insanely amazing ideas. Do dreams and imagined predictions/possibilities exist in this dimension or do they exist in a different dimension? If dying means your mind goes into a different dimension, but your mind is so zonked out psychedelic style or in a hole and "incapacitated" in that dimension... do you really exist there? Is heaven a permanent LSD trip and hell a permanent K-hole trip? What "form" is a real thought and what "form" is an imaginative thought? If energy cannot be destroyed but changes forms, then what form is thought and if we Sci fi a brain without a body into a computer, is that life or something else? Who knows...
This is also rooted in the reverse concept of where one might wonder where "life" begins with an AI. Can life be pure cognition and awareness (mind/cognition/calculation) or does it require purely a physical form (ie: Plant, bacteria etc.) or other (ie: a legacy/intangible influences left behind after you cease)?
All this and in the end, I believe "life" means that you/your body is doing what is necessary to survive. You can be dying (ie: Cancer) but you are alive until you are not. You can be in a death like state (ie: NDE) but until your body disassociates from cognition to the point of no return, you're alive.
Life after death? Perhaps it's possible in some sort of philosophical scientific way. But definitely not a continuation of your current life and cognition/personality IMO in some sort of spiritual Gaia mind ether (Star Wars) or new body elsewhere (the OA) IMO.
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02-14-2023, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Would it even be a pleasant surprise, though? I think being trapped in my own brain and my own thoughts for eternity would be torture and I'm living a reasonably good life over here. I truly don't see the appeal of immortality. Sounds awful.
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02-14-2023, 09:19 AM
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Pent-up
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Would it even be a pleasant surprise, though? I think being trapped in my own brain and my own thoughts for eternity would be torture and I'm living a reasonably good life over here. I truly don't see the appeal of immortality. Sounds awful.
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Immortality is the absolute scariest thing I can imagine.
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02-14-2023, 09:20 AM
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02-14-2023, 09:38 AM
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I look forward to decomposing. I have a hard time imagining anything more relaxing than the meat literally falling off your bones.
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02-14-2023, 09:44 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I look forward to decomposing. I have a hard time imagining anything more relaxing than the meat literally falling off your bones.
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A beach in Cabo maybe.
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02-14-2023, 09:45 AM
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No. but i really want to see my old Shiba again. She was the best dog ever!
We made her Buddhist sooooo maybe? lol
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02-14-2023, 09:46 AM
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Life is good.
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02-14-2023, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I look forward to decomposing. I have a hard time imagining anything more relaxing than the meat literally falling off your bones.
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Just set it at 210-225 F for about 10-12 hours. The meat will slide right off without any effort.
Wait...what are we talking about again? I got hungry.
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02-14-2023, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Just set it at 210-225 F for about 10-12 hours. The meat will slide right off without any effort.
Wait...what are we talking about again? I got hungry.
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Anyone or anything is welcome to eat me after I die, but I would think that I would be too tough and stringy to enjoy unless you were a worm or rodent.
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02-14-2023, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
Anyone or anything is welcome to eat me after I die, but I would think that I would be too tough and stringy to enjoy unless you were a worm or rodent.
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I thought human remains without preservation methods quickly turned to mush or adipocere... Cannibals frequently describe human meat as pork. The first time I stumbled on that tidbit in my youth, I basically didn't eat pork for two years. It weirded me the hell out.
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02-14-2023, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DoubleF
I thought human remains without preservation methods quickly turned to mush or adipocere... Cannibals frequently describe human meat as pork. The first time I stumbled on that tidbit in my youth, I basically didn't eat pork for two years. It weirded me the hell out.
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Pigs can get sunburned like us, and they've transplanted a pig heart to a human. We are more similar than we think.
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02-14-2023, 10:11 AM
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Personally I think we die and it's hard to imagine what nothing is like, but it's nothing afterwards. It seems bad but with no consciousness, it can't be bad at all.
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02-14-2023, 10:14 AM
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Uncle Chester
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Ah, the long nap. It's going to be sublime.
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02-14-2023, 10:17 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Just set it at 210-225 F for about 10-12 hours. The meat will slide right off without any effort.
Wait...what are we talking about again? I got hungry.
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Thank you Jeffrey Dahlmer.
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02-14-2023, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleF
I thought human remains without preservation methods quickly turned to mush or adipocere... Cannibals frequently describe human meat as pork. The first time I stumbled on that tidbit in my youth, I basically didn't eat pork for two years. It weirded me the hell out.
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bring a straw
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02-14-2023, 10:24 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Who remembers what it was like before you were born?
It’ll be like that. Memory and consciousness are contained to within life.
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You were born dead then suddenly came to life? What?
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02-14-2023, 10:51 AM
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#40
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damn onions
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Originally Posted by zamler
You were born dead then suddenly came to life? What?
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Haha… You think that’s what I’m saying here?
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