[Rumour] Oilers and Sharks talking Erik Karlsson

[Plett25]

Driving around Edmonton listening to the radio and the sports radio guys proposed:

Barrie
Yamamoto
2 1st rounders

For Karlsson 40% retained!

Edmonton sports radio is no good

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Plett25

Driving around Edmonton listening to the radio and the sports radio guys proposed:

Barrie
Yamamoto
2 1st rounders

For Karlsson 40% retained!

Edmonton sports radio is no good

bahahahaha, thats not even close.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Plett25

Driving around Edmonton listening to the radio and the sports radio guys proposed:

Barrie
Yamamoto
2 1st rounders

For Karlsson 40% retained!

Edmonton sports radio is no good

lmao
They really do love to overvalue their roster bits and bobs here don't they.

[flamingred89]

In that scenario the Sharks will essentially be Paying 10 million for Barrie and Yamamama? The delusion is so delicious.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Plett25

Driving around Edmonton listening to the radio and the sports radio guys proposed:

Barrie
Yamamoto
2 1st rounders

For Karlsson 40% retained!

Edmonton sports radio is no good

What? San Jose doesnt even answer the phone for that.

Nobody wants Barrie or Yamamoto and those first rounders are mid-strength.

[Tron_fdc]

Trading for what is essentially another forward who stands on the blue line from time to time is right up Edmontons alley.

He would fit right in with their other players chasing that ever elusive green jacket.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

lmao
They really do love to overvalue their roster bits and bobs here don't they.

2 cap dumps and 2 1sts for Karlsson 40% retention

[McG]

Originally Posted by Plett25

Driving around Edmonton listening to the radio and the sports radio guys proposed:

Barrie
Yamamoto
2 1st rounders

For Karlsson 40% retained!

Edmonton sports radio is no good

Of course when SJ doesn’t accept this “overpayment”, it’s the sharks and their management that are lost.

Yamamoto IIRC is coming off of IR which is why Shore went on waivers. Barrie becomes surplus so the obvious choice is to include him. I don’t even know who would be a blue chip prospect on the Oilers but that’s where the conversation should start.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

So sharks take on 8 mil in oiler roster fat and also pay 4.5 mil annually for Karlsson to play in Edm

1sts in the 18-24th overall range would be worth that to them?

[SaskyFlamesFan]

Stauffer was saying 2023 1st, Bouchard, Bourgault, Barrie, JP

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by SaskyFlamesFan

Stauffer was saying 2023 1st, Bouchard, Bourgault, Barrie, JP

That is a pretty serious offer in my opinion. Makes sense that they likely couldn’t afford Bouchard after adding Karlsson. Puljujarvi is a money throw in but still an intriguing player. Barrie is putting up points and could be flipped again and take Karlssons spot on the SJ PP. a 1st and prospect picked in the 1st round to top it off.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

That is a pretty serious offer in my opinion. Makes sense that they likely couldn’t afford Bouchard after adding Karlsson. Puljujarvi is a money throw in but still an intriguing player. Barrie is putting up points and could be flipped again and take Karlssons spot on the SJ PP. a 1st and prospect picked in the 1st round to top it off.

Problem is, Bouchard doesn't make much this year. There would need to be salary retained to get this done. I think it is a good offer no salary retained but if SJ retains $2 mil or more then they might be able to get more.

I would also want to get a 3rd team involved right away for Barrie which could happen. But they might need to retain again but it's short term so not as big a problem.

Oilers can't take Yamamoto off IR without waiving Puljujarvi at this point. SJ might need to retain $4 mil to get this deal done. If that is the case they need a higher end prospect or first

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Problem is, Bouchard doesn't make much this year. There would need to be salary retained to get this done. I think it is a good offer no salary retained but if SJ retains $2 mil or more then they might be able to get more.

I would also want to get a 3rd team involved right away for Barrie which could happen. But they might need to retain again but it's short term so not as big a problem.

Oilers can't take Yamamoto off IR without waiving Puljujarvi at this point. SJ might need to retain $4 mil to get this deal done. If that is the case they need a higher end prospect or first

I think it is a steep overpay for a 32 year old who is having a renaissance season on a dumpster fire team making $11.25M. It is not enough to eat $4M+ but $2.5M with that return makes sense. Maybe a conditional 2nd in 24 that turns into a 1st if the Oilers make the finals in one of the next 2 years?

If they want $4M retained then perhaps Bourgault is swapped with Holloway and there is a conditional pick?

[McG]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think it is a steep overpay for a 32 year old who is having a renaissance season on a dumpster fire team making $11.25M. It is not enough to eat $4M+ but $2.5M with that return makes sense. Maybe a conditional 2nd in 24 that turns into a 1st if the Oilers make the finals in one of the next 2 years?

If they want $4M retained then perhaps Bourgault is swapped with Holloway and there is a conditional pick?

So a 2nd then.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Plett25

Driving around Edmonton listening to the radio and the sports radio guys proposed:

Barrie
Yamamoto
2 1st rounders

For Karlsson 40% retained!

Edmonton sports radio is no good

Can you put a value in a diminutive offence only forward who plays on an offence only team and is on pace for 11 goals over an 82 game season as a 24 year old? I think not.

Weirdly Spector is probably right, the Oilers can’t do the trade. If the Sharks were to eat 4.5 million dollars and turn Karlsson into a 7 million dollar dman (making Karlsson the 26th highest cap dman in the league and dropping) surely to god they could do better than that crappy package.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

That is a pretty serious offer in my opinion. Makes sense that they likely couldn’t afford Bouchard after adding Karlsson. Puljujarvi is a money throw in but still an intriguing player. Barrie is putting up points and could be flipped again and take Karlssons spot on the SJ PP. a 1st and prospect picked in the 1st round to top it off.

Puljujarvi is a bust, he is worthless. He is less intriguing than Yakupov was when he was traded for a 3rd round pick. That package only makes sense if there is no money retained.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think it is a steep overpay for a 32 year old who is having a renaissance season on a dumpster fire team making $11.25M. It is not enough to eat $4M+ but $2.5M with that return makes sense. Maybe a conditional 2nd in 24 that turns into a 1st if the Oilers make the finals in one of the next 2 years?

If they want $4M retained then perhaps Bourgault is swapped with Holloway and there is a conditional pick?

What's Bouchard though? He's not exactly a good defensive dman who averages 2 mins a game on the PP on a team that scores 31% on the PP and he might get 40 points? Throw in he likely gets $4+ mil and if you bridge him, he is very close to UFA after a bridge deal.

Karlsson is having a career year but this is not the first time Karlsson was lighting up the league. He's damn near a PPG for his career.

Yes, SJ should trade him but 3 years and $4 mil retained is 3 years @ $7.5 mil for a 100-point dman. Teams will be very interested if SJ retains that much money. $2 mil might not get as much interest but I don't think the Oilers can squeeze him in at $2 mil either. Needs to be more.

[metroneck]

I think getting a player of his calibre (however you want to evaluate that), has a certain cost.

Retention is almost a separate issue. For each full year of retention, it seems $5m’ish is worth a 1st rounder.

Their PP is already 32%. What does EK add? Takes it to 40%? As frightening as that would be, I’m still in the ‘Please do what ever it takes camp’.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

What's Bouchard though? He's not exactly a good defensive dman who averages 2 mins a game on the PP on a team that scores 31% on the PP and he might get 40 points? Throw in he likely gets $4+ mil and if you bridge him, he is very close to UFA after a bridge deal.

Karlsson is having a career year but this is not the first time Karlsson was lighting up the league. He's damn near a PPG for his career.

Yes, SJ should trade him but 3 years and $4 mil retained is 3 years @ $7.5 mil for a 100-point dman. Teams will be very interested if SJ retains that much money. $2 mil might not get as much interest but I don't think the Oilers can squeeze him in at $2 mil either. Needs to be more.

What type of package do the Stars throw at the Sharks if they can get a 7.5 million dollar Karlsson for the next 3 years when they have Oettinger at 4 million a year

Gurianov
2023 first
Stankoven
Bourque


That has to be at least as attractive and they have other prospects they can throw in.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by SaskyFlamesFan

Stauffer was saying 2023 1st, Bouchard, Bourgault, Barrie, JP

That might be enough with no salary retention, but being they have to take JP likely not even.