2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No, the majority of them are not. Do you ever not make #### up? They are not doing this well in the system, go check your facts again. Lindholm, Kadri, and Mangiapane on pace to beat their career years...wtf are smoking Pepsi? Sometimes I think you don't even follow the team, you just pop on here to try and stir the pot. Like you are not even remotely close to being factual here, it is laughable! Like I said, Toffoli and Dube. The rest you are just totally wrong on.

Lindholm is at 46 points and if he keeps the pace he set since November he’ll probably put up another 30-35, bringing him to 76-81. He needs 79 to clear his second highest season.

Kadri should finish with 56-60 points, good for his third best season behind a 62 point season. Sorry for the extreme difference there, 2-6 points is an enormous amount over 82 games.

Mangiapane needs 5 points to already have his second best season. He hasn’t been as good as last year, but I’m confident he can wrangle up 5 points in 30 games.

Backlund is on pace for 47-51 points, his second highest currently is 47 and his highest is 53. Again, a MASSIVE SPREAD. lol.

I can break down the rest if you want? But not if you’re just going to make excuses like with Andersson and Coleman.

Now, can you answer my question as to how you think these guys are producing at this rate if it’s a “system” problem?

As for the personal remarks, accusing someone of stirring the pot and not watching the team when they’re bringing completely non-offensive opinions about hockey to the table is infantile loser behaviour. Make another post where you cry about how the mods don’t do anything when you complain or about how ”the usual suspects” attack you, as you always do, but posts like this are why nobody takes you seriously. If you want to leave the personal stuff aside, bury whatever personal issue you have, and talk hockey? I’m game. Hockey is fun. Watching you whine about stirring the pot because someone said players were having a good year is not. Grow up.

[Jason14h]

Just curious how a player can be “on pace” for a range of outcomes ? That isn’t how math works

But it really is irrelevant either way . The Flames don’t have a top line / talent performing at a elite level . You see it in the PP and top line production. Nothing else really matters

[Sandman]

We’re back to having no identity….

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Just curious how a player can be “on pace” for a range of outcomes ? That isn’t how math works

But it really is irrelevant either way . The Flames don’t have a top line / talent performing at a elite level . You see it in the PP and top line production. Nothing else really matters

The ranges are my own, assuming that most players are not going to respect the exact mathematical pace they are at at 50ish games into the season and instead fall within a range of that number. It’s not meant to be perfect or get an A+ in high school math and isn’t a prediction, just shows where abouts players are on track to end up if they continue the way they’ve been playing.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

The ranges are my own, assuming that most players are not going to respect the exact mathematical pace they are at at 50ish games into the season and instead fall within a range of that number. It’s not meant to be perfect or get an A+ in high school math and isn’t a prediction, just shows where abouts players are on track to end up if they continue the way they’ve been playing.

The ranges are his ridiculous strawman argument because he knows he is wrong. Hey I can do that too. There are many Coyotes that are on pace to have career years, they are a great team that are much lower in the standings then they should be. I mean if we are going to make up ridiculous statements that have zero value... But you do you Pepsi. Yup, Lindholm, Mangiapane, those guys are having career years. Lol. Nobody takes me seriously? Dude, you are like the biggest joke on this board. So yes, I will make my personal jabs at you because you do it to everybody constantly on here, that is your contribution to CP. Essentially the square root of F all.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The ranges are his ridiculous strawman argument because he knows he is wrong. Hey I can do that too. There are many Coyotes that are on pace to have career years, they are a great team that are much lower in the standings then they should be. I mean if we are going to make up ridiculous statements that have zero value... But you do you Pepsi. Yup, Lindholm, Mangiapane, those guys are having career years. Lol.

It’s not a strawman, we’re just talking hockey. You can agree to disagree with how relevant it is, just as I disagree with your conclusion that the system is the problem based on (nothing). A team where a bunch of players have career years also doesn’t mean they aren’t where they should be in the standings. The Coyotes for example, I haven’t checked but let’s say the career year thing is true for them, too. That could just as easily mean they have a lot of lower tier players who haven’t had much success, and 10 of them having career years could still lead to mediocre results. If a guy who never puts up more than 30 puts up 35, that’s a career year! But it’s unlikely to win you a Stanley Cup on its own.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Dude, you are like the biggest joke on this board. So yes, I will make my personal jabs at you because you do it to everybody constantly on here, that is your contribution to CP. Essentially the square root of F all.

I am pretty funny, thank you. Now, let’s clean up the attitude or we’ll have to lock you in your room for the night. Maybe you can give me some tips on the best way to do it.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It’s not a strawman, we’re just talking hockey. You can agree to disagree with how relevant it is, just as I disagree with your conclusion that the system is the problem based on (nothing). A team where a bunch of players have career years also doesn’t mean they aren’t where they should be in the standings. The Coyotes for example, I haven’t checked but let’s say the career year thing is true for them, too. That could just as easily mean they have a lot of lower tier players who haven’t had much success, and 10 of them having career years could still lead to mediocre results. If a guy who never puts up more than 30 puts up 35, that’s a career year! But it’s unlikely to win you a Stanley Cup on its own.



I am pretty funny, thank you. Now, let’s clean up the attitude or we’ll have to lock you in your room for the night. Maybe you can give me some tips on the best way to do it.

Tip #1. Make sure the door is steel or at least oak.
Tip #2. Lock from outside.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Mangiapane needs 5 points to already have his second best season. He hasn’t been as good as last year, but I’m confident he can wrangle up 5 points in 30 games.

Mang needs 47 points to surpass his points pace of the shortened season. He currently has 28 so he'd need 19 in the remaining 30. Unlikely to happen (but awesome if it did).

He and Huby taking big steps back from last year, combined with inconsistent goaltending, defensive gaffes, and Kylly's absence, have been the problems plaguing this team through 52 games.

I'm not ready to give up on this team nor this season. These guys have it in them to play much better than what we saw last night, and be more consistent from one game to the next.

Get into the postseason and anything can happen! Gotta get in though.

[Poe969]

Anything can happen! Lucic could score 50 goals in the second half of the season, markstrom could get a shutout in every game he plays, stone could win the Norris for being so good in the second half of the season and the Flames could win out the regular season and win 16 straight playoff games to win the cup...because anything can happen, right?
Maybe all the Flames prospects become superstars and the Flames become a dynasty and win 10 cups in a row!

Anything can happen has to be the worst mentality, the Flames have had this mentality since 2004 and have nothing to show for it. No deep runs, no high picks, not a ton of prospects...nothing.

They need to be honest with themselves and the fans.

[Mathgod]

^ My point was this team is better on paper than the results on the ice through 52 games would indicate. It's entirely plausible that this team hits its stride at the best possible time and play their best hockey when the games matter most. There are numerous examples of teams underachieving in the RS and then going on a run in the playoffs.

[dammage79]

There's going to be some key turn over heading into next season. Whoever is GM needs to navigate that properly.

[CFO]

Klinberg if price is a 2nd and ok prospect.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I don’t think we need Klingberg with Andersson/Hanifin/Weegar as the Pp guys. He’s a higher paid version of Kylington.

[Flame On]

Remember last season when Sutter coached a heavy team with the best line in hockey. Oh yeah, all those games with Johnny banging around playing that one system Sutter can do.

People say Huberdeau is a bust. Do we really think he would have still been a bust with Florida if he had stayed there, or another team where the GM was actually able to assemble assets which complimented each other??

Funny how Sutter is a great coach, Jack Adams in fact, then Brad rearranges the team and suddenly Sutter sucks.

Funny how Huberdeau is an elite player, but then Brad gets a hold of our team lines and suddenly Jonathan sucks too.

Not really even saying there's anything Tre could've done differently, but unfortunately Jonathan and Sutter have both proven themselves, Treliving is the one which has not.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Don’t tear a ligament stretching to blame the GM

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Don’t tear a ligament stretching to blame the GM

As opposed to?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Sharing blame across players, coach and the gm

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Sharing blame across players, coach and the gm

I was tying to highlight a lot of prevailing opinion that Sutter is the problem. Or Huberdeau is the problem and that in fact the GM is getting off scott free.

But yeah "there are problems with the players, the coaches, the GM" we could all just post that after every post problem solved.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Flame On

I was tying to highlight a lot of prevailing opinion that Sutter is the problem. Or Huberdeau is the problem and that in fact the GM is getting off scott free.

But yeah "there are problems with the players, the coaches, the GM" we could all just post that after every post problem solved.

Treliving’s getting off Scott free? I would say the majority of this board has wanted him gone for four or five years.

And Huberdeau has proved himself? To what extent? Still hasn’t seen the second round of a playoff series. I’m not casting blame towards Huberdeau but I find you rationale pretty flimsy.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Flame On

I was tying to highlight a lot of prevailing opinion that Sutter is the problem. Or Huberdeau is the problem and that in fact the GM is getting off scott free.

But yeah "there are problems with the players, the coaches, the GM" we could all just post that after every post problem solved.

What problem do you think anyone here is solving, at any time?