The Barn Burner crew was on absolute fire today. It is the most open, honest discussion/critique from any "insiders" I've probably ever heard put out there regarding the Flames organization.
Warrener talks about bravery when it comes to GMs - he notes Yzerman trading St. Louis. You be honest with yourself and what you are, and you sell what you can.
Boomer lays out that yeah the Flames tried to stay in it and compete but that they were wrong.
This episode is definitely worth a listen/watch.
Barn Burner is the best thing to happen to Flames coverage in the modern era.
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what is his plan exactly? Rhett is the guy that will say I told you so if they don't win the cup...in a 32 team league
Flames shouldn't be spending major assets to add but right now they also shouldn't panic and do something stupid. They are tied for a playoff spot with a team that has been even worse of late.
Rhett? He doesn't really lay one out. He does lay out that the organization hasn't built anything of quality which is why they never have any real level of success. He does note a GM being brave enough to make hard decisions - something Treliving/the Flames failed to do.
Boomer does - says sell what you can. Admit that you were wrong with what you did last summer, and start off in a new direction.
Yeah, I agree with both Rhett and Boomer. The foundation this team is built on isn't a good one. It's loaded with expensive middle tier talent and no game breakers. It's just not a formula for success. It was a valiant attempt by Treliving last summer, but it was a misguided one. Conroy even spoke to the fact that it was a rebuild if Florida didn't put up the offer they did. Acknowledge that you made the wrong decision in that position, and start a new journey. Don't waste any more time on this team as it is structured.
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IDK Rhett saying how brave Yzerman was for trading St. Louis is why its hard to take him seriously
St. Louis was 38 and demanded a trade
so brave
He is like a fan ranting and raving that doesn't really follow the game/team. If he actually gave some reasonable ideas of what he would do it would hold more weight.
Steinberg is still my favorite he will criticize but is also realistic about things and provide reasonable examples of what he would do, agree or not.
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Rhett? He doesn't really lay one out. He does lay out that the organization hasn't built anything of quality which is why they never have any real level of success. He does note a GM being brave enough to make hard decisions - something Treliving/the Flames failed to do.
Boomer does - says sell what you can. Admit that you were wrong with what you did last summer, and start off in a new direction.
Yeah, I agree with both Rhett and Boomer. The foundation this team is built on isn't a good one. It's loaded with expensive middle tier talent and no game breakers. It's just not a formula for success. It was a valiant attempt by Treliving last summer, but it was a misguided one. Conroy even spoke to the fact that it was a rebuild if Florida didn't put up the offer they did. Acknowledge that you made the wrong decision in that position, and start a new journey. Don't waste any more time on this team as it is structured.
I don't foresee anything of significance happening until Treliving gets a new contract, or someone new is brought in.
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I agree with his assessment of the state of the team, but I don't think the Flames can realistically rebuild at this point now. The opportunity to rebuild was gift wrapped after Gaudreau left and Tkachuk was traded. The pieces we signed are locked in now and the team is on rails for the next years. There is no egress from this path. Going all-in means you are all-in, and some mistakes just can't be undone.
Imagine if the Flames were going into the 2023 draft with multiple first, and one that would have easily been a top 5 or 10. Even if the team was losing, there would at least be a lot of hype for the future. As it is right now, there is only anxiety.
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Treliving is off to Toronto in April and this will be Darryl’s club to work with after that.
He was damned if he didn’t sign the FLA guys and damned if he did.
Darryl is the one who needed to modify his style to incorporate the new additions and it really seems like he’s refused to. Not saying that Huberdeau and Weegar bare no responsibility, as they both have massively underperformed.
Hindsight is 20/20. Had we just rebuilt we may have been talking Bedard this year instead of a 13/14/15 overall pick.
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[Barn Burner] Boomer: "You were wrong"
