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Old 02-09-2023, 11:58 AM   #21
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Rangers originally acquired Blais from St. Louis in the Buchnevich trade. $1.525 cap hit on Blais then UFA after this season.

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Old 02-09-2023, 12:00 PM   #22
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Bullet Dodged.

Now dodge all those other rentals and sell what you can. Don’t push this current roster, it’s too inconsistent.
Just need some other teams to trade for Meier and Kane
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Old 02-09-2023, 12:02 PM   #23
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Well this was a trade so the "because its new york" argument doesn't really count

But I want to reiterate that I still don't see the appeal of new York whatsoever. Would be one of the last places I would go to live. Players have interesting tastes for sure.
NYC is awesome. If you have money for a nice place.
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Kane to NYR was never realistic. The cap space just didn't work.
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Old 02-09-2023, 12:05 PM   #25
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Rangers originally acquired Blais from St. Louis in the Buchnevich trade. $1.525 cap hit on Blais then UFA after this season.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1623758081791344642
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Old 02-09-2023, 12:07 PM   #26
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1623760496586559488

so reports so far

Tarasenko (salary retained)

for

Blais
2023 1st round pick
(maybe another pick)
prospect

Rangers also have a conditional 2023 Dallas 1st round pick so could see some complicated trade conditions.
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so reports so far

Tarasenko (salary retained)

for

Blais
1st round pick
(maybe another pick)
prospect

Rangers also have a conditional Dallas 1st round pick this year so could see some complicated trade conditions.
That seems high. I guess the retention cost them.
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Old 02-09-2023, 12:08 PM   #28
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what would the Flames equivalent have been? I know there were some posters wanting Tarasenko here.
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Old 02-09-2023, 12:10 PM   #29
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Rangers also getting a d-man

https://twitter.com/user/status/1623761058635685892
https://twitter.com/user/status/1623761390195335169

Prospect is Hunter Skinner per Kevin Weeks


so reports so far

Vladimir Tarasenko (salary retained)
Niko Mikkola

for

Sammy Blais
2023 1st round pick (unclear if Dallas or NYR)
4th
prospect Hunter Skinner

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That might end up being a win for both teams.
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So Blais and a first for Tarasenko retained and a 4th for Mikkola. Skinner is just a contract.

Seems like not that much really, depending on how Blais is really valued.
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Old 02-09-2023, 12:20 PM   #32
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That is quite a massive return for a UFA that wasn't protected in the expansion draft

2023 firsts are super valuable
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The real contenders are going to need to make space for help.

I hope Flames can somehow work this to their advantage. Not that they have much room to play with.
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That is quite a massive return for a UFA that wasn't protected in the expansion draft

2023 firsts are super valuable
Yeah I really didn’t expect to see Tarasenko return a ‘23 1st. ‘24 1st? Sure, no problem - but a 2023 1st? Now the first two trades in trade season have both involved (conditional) ‘23 1st rounders. That’s a surprise to me.
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I’d thought STL would’ve wanted one of Kakko or Lafreniere to go along with Thomas and Kyrou over longer term prospects/ picks. Maybe they weren’t on the table for Tarasenko
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It's garbage. The team can't develop any of their own players, but so many of other team's players want to play for them that they don't need to.
This opinion is garbage. The Rangers have been constructed pretty honestly. Yes, they signed some big free agents, but it's not the sole reason why they're good. They've drafted some key players, and used other assets to trade for some key players. There's only a handful of free agents that have any significant impact on the team.

Drafted
Shesterkin
Lafreniere
Kakko
Kreider
Chytil
Kravtsov
Miller
Schneider

Trade
Zibanejad
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Tarasenko
Gauthier
Hajek

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Panarin
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Vesey (retread, but had his ELC with the Rangers and was developed by them)
Harpur
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*Fox (He was actually traded to the Rangers. I'm only throwing this in there because it was known that he would test free agency and sign with the Rangers if possible)

There's no reason to talk like this about the Rangers at all. It's an old narrative that doesn't apply anymore in a salary cap league where lots of factors go into where players decide to sign.
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1623766442817597448

https://twitter.com/user/status/1623766950198317060

https://twitter.com/user/status/1623766980489801728

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I predict Tarasenko will either work out very well or very poorly in New York. No in-between.
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Old 02-09-2023, 12:47 PM   #40
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He seems like a natural fit with Panarin. The Rangers will also have $16-19M in the off-season, so I can see him re-signing there.

I still that P. Kane is the better(and cheaper) fit on the Flames.
Kane won't leave Chicago now imo.
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