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Old 02-09-2023, 08:55 AM   #1341
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I don't think Sutter is telling him to stand around, not carry the puck, and dish it off the second he gets challenged. His individual effort have been noticeably absent for the most part this season.

That's just the way he has played most of his career like that guy in the video said. Apart from last year when he was playing for a new contract. His effort level has always been up and down and he used to regularly go MIA for long stretches, even though it's hard to believe when you look at his point totals.

I know it's not uncommon for players to have a down year after signing their big final deal but it's pretty disappointing to see Huberdeau almost completely fall of the map coming to a new team. Especially when this year the Flames were supposed to have a major edge in the trade when both Huby and Weegar are still on their sweetheart deals.
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Small point of contention. Huberdeau was NOT playing for a contract since he was still under contract for this year. He just flat out had an amazing year, as did the entire team.

This revisionist history on Huberdeau is starting to piss me off a little.
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Old 02-09-2023, 12:54 PM   #1343
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Small point of contention. Huberdeau was NOT playing for a contract since he was still under contract for this year. He just flat out had an amazing year, as did the entire team.

This revisionist history on Huberdeau is starting to piss me off a little.

He essentially was playing for a new deal. Big name like him entering the final year of his deal usually gets signed as soon as possible when you're allowed to negotiate. Entering the final year without a new contract is just asking for trouble as we saw with Gaudreau.

And what it's worth, you've clearly been higher on Huby than I ever was. I never wanted the Panthers to sign him to that deal (have said it before) and I never was a big fan of him to begin with, so no revisionist history for me at least. I did like him more when he was younger though, back when he was scrappier.
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Old 02-09-2023, 01:04 PM   #1344
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Where is McGrattan these days? I don't see him on twitter nor on the flames website.
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Old 02-09-2023, 01:06 PM   #1345
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He was over PPG 4 years in a row

"Playing for a contract"

Also where were these videos before this season...it's BS clickbait. People had him penciled into the top line LW on team Canada. Montreal was dreaming of landing him as a FA.

There is a ton of revisionist history going on
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He was over PPG 4 years in a row

"Playing for a contract"

Also where were these videos before this season...it's BS clickbait. People had him penciled into the top line LW on team Canada. Montreal was dreaming of landing him as a FA.

There is a ton of revisionist history going on
That Florida fan has been critical of Huberdeau for a long time it seems. He made this video 2 years ago when Huberdeau was having a PPG season. The guy might be a little whacky, but he is at least consistent.



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Old 02-09-2023, 01:37 PM   #1347
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I don't care about some random fan who has likely never put on a pair of skates

I was talking about the articles we are seeing from hockey "journalists"
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Old 02-12-2023, 03:39 AM   #1348
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Valimaki with a 4 point game... *sigh*
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After 7 points in 26 games, former Flame Mark Jankowski has been waived by the Nashville Predators today.

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After 7 points in 26 games, former Flame Mark Jankowski has been waived by the Nashville Predators today.

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Old 02-20-2023, 06:58 PM   #1351
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Small point of contention. Huberdeau was NOT playing for a contract since he was still under contract for this year. He just flat out had an amazing year, as did the entire team.

This revisionist history on Huberdeau is starting to piss me off a little.
Since Huberdeau could sign a contract after last season, he was, in a sense, playing for a contract.

Which he parlayed big time.
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Old 02-21-2023, 09:02 AM   #1352
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Playing for a contract is more of a state of mind IMO so really depends where Huberdeau's head was at. Was he expecting to negotiate a long term deal that summer? It didn't seem like Florida was interested.
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After 7 points in 26 games, former Flame Mark Jankowski has been waived by the Nashville Predators today.

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Jay Feaster, the Calgary Flames general manager at the time, told reporters center Mark Jankowski "will be viewed as the best player in the 2012 Draft."

John Weisbrod, Feaster's assistant, compared the 17-year-old to a young Joe Nieuwendyk.
They weren't remotely close with their assessment. Forsberg, Hertl, Hampus L, Morgan Reilly, Trouba, Josh Anderson, Vasilevsky etc etc.
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I get the appeal of the player though: big, skilled, and a really good skater.
That's the mix you look for in a #1 centre.
But sometimes it just doesn't come together.
But there was a time, early on, where it looked liked there was a real player there.
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Old 02-21-2023, 05:50 PM   #1355
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They weren't remotely close with their assessment. Forsberg, Hertl, Hampus L, Morgan Reilly, Trouba, Josh Anderson, Vasilevsky etc etc.
You don’t really need the etc. etc. as you basically named the good players in that draft. Just a terrible draft year.
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You don’t really need the etc. etc. as you basically named the good players in that draft. Just a terrible draft year.
Nah. I need the etc etc to fill in for the several other players that are still playing that are at least serviceable or decent; thus, they were better than Janko. It's ok to whiff on a pick. Happens. It's just so lame that mngt said those things back then.
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Old 02-23-2023, 02:58 PM   #1357
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If the Panthers make the playoffs, Tkachuk is likely going to get some Hart consideration.
Especially looking at his stats compared to everyone else on his team.
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I get the appeal of the player though: big, skilled, and a really good skater.
That's the mix you look for in a #1 centre.
But sometimes it just doesn't come together.
But there was a time, early on, where it looked liked there was a real player there.
In theory it's a win for scouting, they found an NHL player in some second tier high school league.

The failure was they fell in love with the player a little too much and used their first round pick on him when it should have probably been a 4th.

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In theory it's a win for scouting, they found an NHL player in some second tier high school league.

The failure was they fell in love with the player a little too much and used their first round pick on him when it should have probably been a 4th.

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I remember watching the draft on TV and hoping the Flames would draft Olli Maata in that draft. Maata went one pick after Janko (and I think we traded down too...)
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Tkachuk has provided the Florida Panthers with significant value in his first season with them. We've been reluctant to include him on these lists until now because the Cats have been so disappointing. But the versatile forward's elite play deserves recognition precisely because he's carried an underachieving club, and he's been on fire lately.

The All-Star MVP racked up seven goals and 17 assists in the 15 games since our last edition of these rankings. Tkachuk leads the NHL in both helpers and points in that span. The talented agitator's production relative to that of his teammates has been commendable, too. Tkachuk has 10 more assists and 24 more points than the closest Panthers, all while sitting among the league leaders in both categories.

The 25-year-old's underlying numbers have been sublime. He ranks third in the NHL in wins above replacement and is tied for third in goals above replacement. He also sits third in individual expected goals. Tkachuk is 10th in five-on-five expected goals for percentage among forwards with at least 500 minutes played in those situations, having logged more ice time than all but one forward ahead of him. As a result, the gritty American has an outside shot at being voted a Hart finalist.
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