2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yep, the Flames are 6 points off the division lead with a game in hand

5 playoff spots available within 6 points

"season over, throw in the towel" lol

People act like they need to run the table or something

THIS too.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Absolutely. Toffoli, Dube, Backlund, Andersson, Coleman, and even Lindholm are all on pace to have career-years points wise. Kadri is on pace to have the second best year of his career and Zadorov is on pace to have a career year goals-wise.

Huberdeau, meanwhile, is on pace to have the worst season he’s had by far since he was 21 years old… 8 years ago.

At a certain point, people have to admit the coach isn’t the problem when it comes to Huberdeau producing.

To me Huberdeau is taking the task of playings Sutter's system very personally. He's trying so hard out there, his defensive metrics after the first three months were near the top of the league. Toffoli, Dube, Backlund, Andersson, Coleman, and Lindholm are not playing their first seasons under Sutter.

He's doing everything he can to be a "Sutter" player and his offensive stats are struggling big time because of it. I think we'll eventually see a shift where he starts to break out offensively, gets back to an 80-100 point player and doesn't look back. I follow him very closely.

[dino7c]

The fact that Huberdeau and Markstom have been this bad and the Flames would lead the division with THREE more wins should give people hope if anything

if the Flames added a good forward and a decent dman who in the west would you be scared of? honestly?

[Sandman]

All we need is for the team to peak at the right time- just before the playoffs begin.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The fact that Huberdeau and Markstom have been this bad and the Flames would lead the division with THREE more wins should give people hope if anything

if the Flames added a good forward and a decent dman who in the west would you be scared of? honestly?

Dallas, Edmonton if they swing in. Any other central div team.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by jayswin

To me Huberdeau is taking the task of playings Sutter's system very personally. He's trying so hard out there, his defensive metrics after the first three months were near the top of the league. Toffoli, Dube, Backlund, Andersson, Coleman, and Lindholm are not playing their first seasons under Sutter.

He's doing everything he can to be a "Sutter" player and his offensive stats are struggling big time because of it. I think we'll eventually see a shift where he starts to break out offensively, gets back to an 80-100 point player and doesn't look back. I follow him very closely.

Totally agree. I just believe it’s not a “system” thing or that he’s being held back by anyone but himself.

He’ll figure it out. It’s on him, but I don’t think he’s cooked like some other people here seem to. It wouldn’t surprise me to see him get back to 100 next year, or (if we make it) suddenly start finding the space in the playoffs when the more defensive play style gives teams a leg up and more opportunities.

[dino7c]

Players do have off years

Tkachuk only had 43 in the bubble season and then 104 the next year
I know 56 games but still its a massive difference year to year

Even Iggy went from 90s to 60s to 90s in his time here

criticism of the season thus far is fair but to say he is done is pretty stupid


If Tkachuk stayed there is also no way in hell he would have 71 points here with the roster and style of play. Tkachuk, Lindholm, Mangiapane wouldn't be lighting it up like they did with Gaudreau

ironically Tkachuk has the exact stats Huberdeau did last season after 50 games (other than the W's)

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The fact that Huberdeau and Markstom have been this bad and the Flames would lead the division with THREE more wins should give people hope if anything

if the Flames added a good forward and a decent dman who in the west would you be scared of? honestly?

Cynically? Edmonton because of the refs factor. Right now, I'm really furious at the reffing on Oilers games not just against us, like last night's game against the Red Wings.

[dino7c]

refs are my biggest fear with the Oilers too

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Totally agree. I just believe it’s not a “system” thing or that he’s being held back by anyone but himself.

He’ll figure it out. It’s on him, but I don’t think he’s cooked like some other people here seem to. It wouldn’t surprise me to see him get back to 100 next year, or (if we make it) suddenly start finding the space in the playoffs when the more defensive play style gives teams a leg up and more opportunities.

To me he's a player that will do what it takes to be a better player when coached to do so...and he's also never been told to play defensively, so "doing what it takes" is a new ball game. But he's the type that will do it.

He won't cheat because he feels pressure to put up points, he'll just focus on proper play and won't find himself in easy offensive positions near as often as in Florida, and when he does he squeezes the stick too hard.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by dino7c

refs are my biggest fear with the Oilers too

If games against them are reffed fairly, I believe we can beat them 9 out of 10 times.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

If games against them are reffed fairly, I believe we can beat them 9 out of 10 times.

With Vladar in net yes.

[Sandman]

Not sure if it's been discussed, but Seravalli (yes I know we all hate him, he's a hack) has discussed Klingberg as a fit for the Flames. Don't agree, as the cap-hit is prohibitive, but he would help our PP, lol. Looked for a while like we were going to sign him last summer.....

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Not sure if it's been discussed, but Seravalli (yes I know we all hate him, he's a hack) has discussed Klingberg as a fit for the Flames. Don't agree, as the cap-hit is prohibitive, but he would help our PP, lol. Looked for a while like we were going to sign him last summer.....

For the love of God no. He is the worst defenseman in his own zone in modern day NHL history. He makes Tyson Barrie look like Chris Tanev. No no no.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Players do have off years

Tkachuk only had 43 in the bubble season and then 104 the next year
I know 56 games but still its a massive difference year to year

Even Iggy went from 90s to 60s to 90s in his time here

criticism of the season thus far is fair but to say he is done is pretty stupid


If Tkachuk stayed there is also no way in hell he would have 71 points here with the roster and style of play. Tkachuk, Lindholm, Mangiapane wouldn't be lighting it up like they did with Gaudreau

ironically Tkachuk has the exact stats Huberdeau did last season after 50 games (other than the W's)

I wonder if anyone has thought to compare Iggy and Kipper’s ‘off years’

Imagine if they could have aligned consistently lol

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by deluxemoustache

i wonder if anyone has thought to compare iggy and kipper’s ‘off years’

imagine if they could have aligned consistently lol

2004.

[Vinny01]

This team is 4-10 in OT. If the record was reversed they are in 1st place in the Pacific. They need a finisher and upgrade on Mike Stone.

I don’t want them to touch their top 4 prospects or 23 1st but anything else would be on the table to upgrade.

I do not want them breaking the bank but Max Domi and Like Schenn seem like good fits and hopefully would cost 2nd (Domi) 3rd (Schenn) maybe toss in some lower end prospects. If the cost is higher then move onto the next option.

[Vinny01]

A type of condition we see all the time in the NBA but never in the NHL is the concept of a pick swap. Teams can offer the ability for another team to swap 1st round picks in a given year. I think it is an interesting concept and should be considered by other GM’s.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Not sure if it's been discussed, but Seravalli (yes I know we all hate him, he's a hack) has discussed Klingberg as a fit for the Flames. Don't agree, as the cap-hit is prohibitive, but he would help our PP, lol. Looked for a while like we were going to sign him last summer.....

He's had a pretty bad season for the Ducks.

[Badgers Nose]

If, if, if…

Lots of ifs here. Their record is not a result of bad luck. In many of the losses Flames were embarrassingly bad.

Ive been patient all season, but we are getting to crunch time. They have two weeks to show that theyve figured it out. If they dont then it would be crazy to deal picks and futures for short term help.

Right now they are more than a top line winger and defender upgrade away from being a contender.