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[PepsiFree]

Imagine being so far down the corporate bootlicker pecking order that you resort to trying to make “downtown worker in office 5 days a week” seem like some cool, desirable thing.

Just screams useless middle-manager.

[Looch City]

5 days a week in the office?

Pffft, everyone knows the REAL hard workers go at it 7 days a week downtown. 12 hours at the office. Grinding it away in the ‘ol cubicle.

Those are the true HARD workers! Smh how weak this generation has become.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Looch City

5 days a week in the office?

Pffft, everyone knows the REAL hard workers go at it 7 days a week downtown. 12 hours at the office. Grinding it away in the ‘ol cubicle.

Those are the true HARD workers! Smh how weak this generation has become.

Slacker. If you aren't working 7 full days and then flying across the international dateline to pick up another work day per week you're doing it wrong.

[Roughneck]

I don't even have a job downtown, but I do like to head in twice a week just to try out the food and coffee options.

[81MC]

Originally Posted by Ducay

…folks who actually make things happen have been in 5 days a week since April 2020. They're effectively role playing as downtown workers those days. If you're in 2 days a week - you're overhead

####ing 5 Dayers with office jobs clog the roads up every same day for us real workers out there actually getting stuff done. You’re smelling each others coffee breath and sharing a toilet seat to cosplay as important while you’re slowly but surely becoming less relevant in society.

[nik-]

I bet he drives a lifted F150, only drives it back and forth to a downtown parkade 5 days a week and can't park it between the lines.

[Looch City]

Lol it GMG that there’s still boomer managers out there mind boggled by how their team could possibly be more effective at home. I guess they just can’t micro manage them as well.

Please just retire already.

[topfiverecords]

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by 81MC

####ing 5 Dayers with office jobs clog the roads up every same day for us real workers out there actually getting stuff done. You’re smelling each others coffee breath and sharing a toilet seat to cosplay as important while you’re slowly but surely becoming less relevant in society.

#### this made me laugh out loud.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Lol it GMG that there’s still boomer managers out there mind boggled by how their team could possibly be more effective at home. I guess they just can’t micro manage them as well.

Please just retire already.

I won't disagree that many jobs can now be completed remotely and that the pandemic proved that out. That all said for the life of me I can't see why most white collar workers would be pushing so hard against ever going into the office. The natural reaction is to accelerate automation and offshore more white collar work. In the long run I hope the people clamoring and making it difficult to go back to the office have a retirement plan they plan to enact before the decade closes out, because their job won't be done for Calgary salaries or even in Calgary much longer.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Downtown Posers GMG


You all know these types. They work hybrid and come in on Tuesdays and Thursdays to clog up everyone's commutes and make coffee and food lines unbearably long.
They come into the office and take all their meetings remote anyways, meanwhile the folks who actually make things happen have been in 5 days a week since April 2020. They're effectively role playing as downtown workers those days. If you're in 2 days a week - you're overhead

80% of Suncor - I'm looking at you

You must love when I go to downtown once or twice per year for client dinners and constantly brake check because I'm lost and struggle to find parking in my big ass truck.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

I won't disagree that many jobs can now be completed remotely and that the pandemic proved that out. That all said for the life of me I can't see why most white collar workers would be pushing so hard against ever going into the office. The natural reaction is to accelerate automation and offshore more white collar work. In the long run I hope the people clamoring and making it difficult to go back to the office have a retirement plan they plan to enact before the decade closes out, because their job won't be done for Calgary salaries or even in Calgary much longer.

Just my opinion but I don’t think companies had previously been avoiding outsourcing jobs out of benevolence.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

I won't disagree that many jobs can now be completed remotely and that the pandemic proved that out. That all said for the life of me I can't see why most white collar workers would be pushing so hard against ever going into the office. The natural reaction is to accelerate automation and offshore more white collar work. In the long run I hope the people clamoring and making it difficult to go back to the office have a retirement plan they plan to enact before the decade closes out, because their job won't be done for Calgary salaries or even in Calgary much longer.

100%. Be careful what you wish for. Why should your employer pay you say $100k a year to do work when they could hire someone with the same skillset elsewhere for say $50k/year?

I'm also fully prepared to hear about how I'm a dinosaur and "boomer" (I'm not, but whatever). The truth is there is a lot of value to working with other people and exchanging ideas and information. One of the annoying things about WFH is how every conversation becomes a meeting. What was once "hey, did you hear about this?" or simple little conversations just don't happen when you work in isolation. It does depend on what you do and how you operate, but in some businesses, that's enormously valuable.

And don't even get me started on the inefficacy of Zoom/Teams for a board/committee meeting. It's a stop-gap that works when there is no better option...but the better option is a face-to-face.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Slava

And don't even get me started on the inefficacy of Zoom/Teams for a board/committee meeting. It's a stop-gap that works when there is no better option...but the better option is a face-to-face.

By using the same logic as is being used to fear monger about job losses, the additional costs associated with travel, hotels and meeting room rentals to hold in person meetings would also expedite outsourcing. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t so you’re probably better off working from home.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

By using the same logic as is being used to fear monger about job losses, the additional costs associated with travel, hotels and meeting room rentals to hold in person meetings would also expedite outsourcing. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t so you’re probably better off working from home.

What's the fear-mongering? It's just the harsh reality of the situation. If you work for a company and WFH for $100k a year and the employer could pay someone half for the same work, why wouldn't they move to that?

[Scroopy Noopers]

What grinds my gears is anytime someone has an idea to improve the lives of workers the “they’ll just outsource your jobs” comes up. Like that should be acceptable to anyone, that people who live amongst us will no longer be able to pay into the cities we live because their jobs will be outsourced for daring to ask for some improvements.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Slava

What's the fear-mongering? It's just the harsh reality of the situation. If you work for a company and WFH for $100k a year and the employer could pay someone half for the same work, why wouldn't they move to that?

Why wouldn’t they do it even if you’re working in the office?

[Cappy]

Ducay's post is funny, but it is certainly not an uncommon sentiment; particularly during COVID.

A few people i worked with noted that some of the big companies downtown had many manager (low-upper) come to work everyday and essentially drink the company kool-aid as it was a badge of honour to be filling out spreadsheets in a dead office during a pandemic...

After people started coming back to the office, there was some resentment and tribal mentalities among those who didnt work from home.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Why wouldn’t they do it even if you’re working in the office?

I can't tell if this is a serious question.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Slava

I can't tell if this is a serious question.

You can still answer it. I believe in you