getting a little tired of the crack/meth heads

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by shogged

I love that you self identified with, and subsequently took offence to my post lol you’re usually more creative than ageism though, off day for you? Maybe it was the second hand meth smoke from your transit ride this morning?

No offence taken, just like making fun of people who come into a thread and complain about the thread. Thanks for the contribution, though. Your opinion is special and valued. Maybe we can get back to our conversation and you can go colour or something?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Neither - I think the problem posed by the thread isn't "make it so there aren't homeless people", but "make it so that people are safe from aggressive public harassment when carrying on their normal lives". Eliminating homelessness would certainly be one way to solve that problem, but it's a solution that's broader than the issue as presented. Aggressive draconian police measures might also solve said problem, but no one is on board for that (except White Out 403 apparently).

I think your position earlier in the thread seemed to be that it's one or another - either we take broad measures to tackle the homeless problem (and the associated problem of drug use in public spaces) in a more holistic way, taking some of the steps you've just mentioned, or we just go full "jackboot thug" on them and use brute force to relocate or incarcerate anyone who might bother someone. Is that your view, or is there a third option?

My position is the same as earlier, yeah.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by chemgear

We already know that having a Ctrain station nearby is a liability crime wise for a neighborhood even before the rise in open drug use. Hopefully it won't end up the same for playgrounds or parks (or things like empty lots).


https://globalnews.ca/news/9424029/v...ss-camp-costs/

A pair of longstanding homeless encampments in the City of Vancouver have cost taxpayers more than $6 million since 2018, data obtained by Global News shows.

Last May, a man was murdered in CRAB Park, and the ongoing encampment there saw a mass stabbing in October and a major tent fire in December.

An innocent man was also murdered in the previous Oppenheimer Park encampment. The same encampment also was the scene of a shooting and what Vancouver police described as a “horrific” sexual assault.

Strathcona Park’s tent city was the scene of fires, overdose deaths and the serious assaults of two men, one of whom later died.

Lewis, who said she was attacked by a stranger during the chaos associated with the Strathcona Park encampment in Oct. 2020, is hopeful the new ABC majority on Vancouver city council will be more proactive in addressing the issue.

Vancouver’s mayor said the city can’t solve this alone.

Encampments and city responses are essentially the main symptom of half-measures. I am sure both sides of this issue look at encampments as being a failure

[shogged]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No offence taken, just like making fun of people who come into a thread and complain about the thread. Thanks for the contribution, though. Your opinion is special and valued. Maybe we can get back to our conversation and you can go colour or something?

And you have the audacity to call other posters here disingenuous

Like we get it pepsifree, you’re progressive and informed. It’s just a shame you can’t be those things without also ####ting all over any dissenting opinion shared by others. The irony of you calling my opinion special and valued is not lost on me.

[TorqueDog]

I'm just arming myself with a footlong sub-sandwich next time I'm in downtown.

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Neither - I think the problem posed by the thread isn't "make it so there aren't homeless people", but "make it so that people are safe from aggressive public harassment when carrying on their normal lives". Eliminating homelessness would certainly be one way to solve that problem, but it's a solution that's broader than the issue as presented. Aggressive draconian police measures might also solve said problem, but no one is on board for that (except White Out 403 apparently).

I think your position earlier in the thread seemed to be that it's one or another - either we take broad measures to tackle the homeless problem (and the associated problem of drug use in public spaces) in a more holistic way, taking some of the steps you've just mentioned, or we just go full "jackboot thug" on them and use brute force to relocate or incarcerate anyone who might bother someone. Is that your view, or is there a third option?

Yeah, I think most people are on the side of "help these people already, but make sure the problematic abusers aren't making life miserable for the law-abiding citizens in their midst".

Isn't that a fair thing to ask? There are people suffering in silence or largely keeping to themselves, and there are people who are causing problems for the rest of the population in ways that we would consider criminal outside of their drug use alone. If someone is in the latter category, incarceration for their non-drug related criminal behavior along with medically-assisted treatment seems to be to be a reasonable approach. In the former category, clearly incarceration is not warranted.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I'm just arming myself with a footlong sub-sandwich next time I'm in downtown.

Considering how rubbery they are these days they'd make decent impromptu nunchaku in a pinch...

If you're in real trouble you just upgrade to the 'Party Size' and you could clear the entire platform.

Its the Nuclear option.

[Jason14h]

Double meat double cheese double everything ?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by shogged

And you have the audacity to call other posters here disingenuous

Like we get it pepsifree, you’re progressive and informed. It’s just a shame you can’t be those things without also ####ting all over any dissenting opinion shared by others. The irony of you calling my opinion special and valued is not lost on me.

As much as you’re desperate to talk about how much the thread sucks, how much you don’t like virtue signalling, and your thoughts on me, nobody actually cares nor is interested in pausing the interesting conversation we’re actually having without you to have the one you want to have instead. Try contributing to the topic. It’s not as difficult to participate like a normal adult as you’re making it out to be.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Double meat double cheese double everything ?

Well...from a physics perspective, the more toppings you got on there, the more physical inertia you're going to have and thus the more effective weapon.

Bluntly, the double meat just incrementally increases your bludgeoning power, granted, it would probably also slow the swing a little?

But as the toppings drop out during combat they could become effective projectiles or at the very least distract a presumably starving junkie into re-organizing their priorities?

Theres lots of potential there.

[Jason14h]

What would be the most effective sub topping/ topping combo to use as a weapon (inside the bum)

Edit : Bun

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

What would be the most effective sub topping/ topping combo to use as a weapon (inside the bum)

Peppers and Hot Sauce. Obviously.

Like low rent pepper spray. You swing that stuff around and if it doesnt make them think twice about throwing hands, it'll at least make them hungry and initiate their desire to locate the nearest Subway.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Double meat double cheese double everything ?

My understanding is "double meat double cheese" is highly dependent on the price of oil.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

What would be the most effective sub topping/ topping combo to use as a weapon (inside the bum)

Is egg salad still an option?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Is egg salad still an option?

I feel like tuna or meatball would be a smarter weapon. Egg salad just seems like a low density product to me.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Woman stabbed on CTrain platform, charges pending: police

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/woman-sta...lice-1.6257109

No word from police on whether the fight was over a subway sandwich or if either assailant or victim were armed with a subway sandwich.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I feel like tuna or meatball would be a smarter weapon. Egg salad just seems like a low density product to me.

The noxiousness of the resultant flatulence or full esophageal burps shouldn’t be underestimated.

[81MC]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

What would be the most effective sub topping/ topping combo to use as a weapon ( inside the bum)

Sexual assault isn’t funny man.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Locke

Considering how rubbery they are these days they'd make decent impromptu nunchaku in a pinch...

If you're in real trouble you just upgrade to the 'Party Size' and you could clear the entire platform.

Its the Nuclear option.

Enough parmesan on the meatball sub and ain’t nobody coming near ya.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Encampments and city responses are essentially the main symptom of half-measures. I am sure both sides of this issue look at encampments as being a failure

How does the crime level in an encampment compare to the worst areas of a city?

Crime has always been a problem in low rent areas. This is probably worse because of the lack of thinks like walls and locks but it would be interesting to see real metrics.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/woman-sta...lice-1.6257109

No word from police on whether the fight was over a subway sandwich or if either assailant or victim were armed with a subway sandwich.

I remember years ago almost getting into a fight with a couple of rough dudes who wanted my Subway sandwich and wouldn't take no for an answer. This was the Crack Macs station. I had to bail out of there quickly.