Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[TheIronMaiden]

I always have a chuckle at the WEF stuff. "Rich People rule the world!" Wow. I never knew.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I always have a chuckle at the WEF stuff. "Rich People rule the world!" Wow. I never knew.

It’s hard not to laugh at. In a world where we have billionaire donors, lobbyists, places like the Manning Centre (or whatever it’s called now) that actually exist to influence policy, and where the idea of money buying power and influence is so common place that it’s cliché… idiots try to make attending a conference into evidence of some dark cabal.

It takes such a lack of imagination that it’s easy to see how these people don’t understand why nobody with half a brain cell takes them seriously.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1620007956300402689

[Fuzz]

Someone should probably go to Ottawa to protest this.

[GordonBlue]

I know the Sun newspapers were always not much more than a right wing tabloid, but in the last several years, they've (to me) gone shockingly to the right.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Slava

This is probably a net positive for the CPC:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1619896930850729985

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

In all seriousness though, is he wrong?

#brokenclock?

[The Fisher Account]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I know the Sun newspapers were always not much more than a right wing tabloid, but in the last several years, they've (to me) gone shockingly to the right.

Only thing that can generate clicks right now for a dying industry

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I always have a chuckle at the WEF stuff. "Rich People rule the world!" Wow. I never knew.

A young Jewish man decided to go and visit his Grandfather one day He walked though the door and warm greetings were exchanged. The Grandson went into his Grandfathers study and saw books and pamphlets on Jewish conspiracies. Papers on Jewish bank based cabals that talked about how Jews ruled the world. He went back to his Grandfather and demanded to know why he read these conspiracy theories And his Grandfather replied "I like to read about how powerful I am"

[Azure]

We all know rich people rule the world. So the WEF stuff is nothing new beyond getting more attention on social media, etc.

But at the same time it is sad how many people are willing to accept how the elites can fly all over the world in their private jets to big fancy meetings and tell us all how we should live.

And on top of that we are now telling poor nations that they are not allowed to have what we have. How kids in the Congo should keep providing us with cobalt so we can drive our fancy new EVs and buy the latest iPhones all while telling everyone how green we are and how much we care about climate change.

"No fossil fuels for you poor bastards, better you stay poor so I can keep enjoy my vegan kale salad while virtue signaling to the rest of the world how green I am."

So the WEF elitist bull#### is actually just a great example of how elitist and pathetic the behaviour of most first world nations has become in general.

[PepsiFree]

It would probably help if there weren’t portions of the population sanctimoniously condemning EV-driving, iPhone-using, salad-eating elitists out of one side of their mouth while praising Elon Musk and defending Tesla and EVs in general out of the other.

Kind of sums up the problem, doesn’t it? People put on a little show and act enraged about people in developing countries, but at the end of the day, they sit their gluttonous ass down on the couch, pull out their smartphone, and pathetically fanboy over guys like Musk (guys who have taken plenty of blood out of developing nations) and companies like Tesla.

I don’t know which is worse, honestly. The elitists, or the thousands of sycophants who would kiss their feet if offered. Just doesn’t make sense for the latter to lecture anybody, which is all right wing babies like Fleury do.

[Roughneck]

So I'm missing the solution:

- Tax the rich more, especially jet fuel.
- Increase the cost of goods by improving developing world wages and working conditions
- Accelerate getting first world off fossil fuels so there's some room for growth for developing world
- More vegan options

Do I have that right?

[Northendzone]

noted on twitter yesterday that michelle rempel-gardner posted a document on her substack.

Doucment seems to suggest that the govt paid $6.8m to quarantine 15 people at the westin in calgary.

Mind boggling spend. One can only imagine how many times this happens across teh country with other departments

https://michellerempelgarner.substac...medium=reader2

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_zH...g3yqEVIrr/view

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

noted on twitter yesterday that michelle rempel-gardner posted a document on her substack.

Doucment seems to suggest that the govt paid $6.8m to quarantine 15 people at the westin in calgary.

Mind boggling spend. One can only imagine how many times this happens across teh country with other departments

https://michellerempelgarner.substac...medium=reader2

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_zH...g3yqEVIrr/view

One of the contracts that the feds have recently given to McKinsey is an open contract until the end of 2100. That seems really comical and absurd that the government would sign an ongoing 80 year contract for services.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/p...qu-en-2100.php

“What justifies an open contract for the next 81 years? asked Bloc Québécois MNA Julie Vignola, surprised that the government could not hire its own specialists for such a long period of time.

She then questioned public administration professor Amanda Clarke of Carleton University, who has extensively studied the procurement process in the federal government.

“This idea of ​​having open contracts over 81 years seems outrageous,” she replied. I think that's where you have to ask yourself what's the point of having a public service. »

The contract, available online, was awarded on August 31, 2019 and is due to end on January 31, 2100. The sheet does not specify how much the government must pay. Instead, it says it's a $0 contract for IT professional services.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

So I'm missing the solution:

- Tax the rich more, especially jet fuel.
- Increase the cost of goods by improving developing world wages and working conditions
- Accelerate getting first world off fossil fuels so there's some room for growth for developing world
- More vegan options

Do I have that right?

I'm all for taxing the rich more.

But we all know that doesn't work. End of the day it is more virtue signalling by politicians.

Impose taxes on luxury items while still making sure hedge funds can buy real estate. And Canadians actually believe the luxury tax will make a difference.

The biggest problem is we have shown the rich & elite that we are okay with them jet hopping across the world to their 15 estates while telling us all how we should not drive as much.

The 'fossil fuels are bad' mantra from 1st world morons has got to be one of the biggest scams we have ever fell for.

While we kneecap our energy industry, India, China, Europe and most of the developed world is going to burn more coal than ever before. And we ACTUALLY think we've made progress.

[Jason14h]

Environmentalism is big business . Just look at the recycling sham of the past 25 years, while Amazon continues to ship billions of boxes and countless other industries continue wasteful packaging and shipping practices

It’s like a street hussler- keep the audience distracted with the left hand while the right hand steals your wallet

[Azure]

Ask a random person on the street.

"Where does the plastic go that you recycle. Where do the electronics go that you recycle?"

Most people have no clue.

Where does the cobalt come from in all our battery powered devices, cars, etc?

Nobody cares.

It is all about the appearance of being green.
In the meantime 6 year old kids are mining our cobalt.

[PepsiFree]

It would be greener if adults mined our cobalt.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Azure

Ask a random person on the street.

"Where does the plastic go that you recycle. Where do the electronics go that you recycle?"

Most people have no clue.
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5-10 years ago, sure. But it is now a pretty well-known fact. Which is why there has been a big push to ban plastic materials (i will admit not nearly as fast as it should be) and replace them with compostable materials.

However, you and i both know the pushback those initiatives have seen. The "trudeau straw ban" etc.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Cappy

5-10 years ago, sure. But it is now a pretty well-known fact. Which is why there has been a big push to ban plastic materials (i will admit not nearly as fast as it should be) and replace them with compostable materials.

However, you and i both know the pushback those initiatives have seen. The "trudeau straw ban" etc.

Do the new compostable straws that look and feel like plastic straws actually reduce waste?

My question is would get filtered out at the compost facility as they require heat to break down. That heat is part of the composting process but do they get sorted before that point? How is the new compostable plastic like stuff distinguished from the plastic stuff

[Azure]

I'm all for paper based packaging.

But I'm also not naive enough to believe that me recycling plastic products means that it is actually being recycled.

Or that 1st world countries aren't just sending their waste to 3rd world countries.

I won't say that there aren't people that don't truly care about the environment and try to make good choices (buy local produce as an example), but nobody can deny that 1st world countries are very much just taking advantage of 3rd world countries in order to give the appearance of being green.

The entire movement might go down as one of the greatest grifts of the modern century.