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Old 01-29-2023, 11:15 AM   #6761
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Proper ventilation design vs. kicking gas out into the heart of your living area and hoping that super effective little vent fan a couple feet away will get rid of some of the fumes, assuming you remember to turn it on.
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Old 01-29-2023, 11:37 AM   #6762
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Funny, I figured that home schooling would at least lead to learning about the home.
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Old 01-29-2023, 11:47 AM   #6763
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Funny, I figured that home schooling would at least lead to learning about the home.
Perhaps the fumes have gotten to him...
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Old 01-29-2023, 01:23 PM   #6764
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was there this kind of pushback when governments started regulating lead out of gasoline?

I don't get it.
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Old 01-29-2023, 01:40 PM   #6765
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was there this kind of pushback when governments started regulating lead out of gasoline?

I don't get it.
Google wasn't around then for the free-thinkers to do their "research".
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Old 01-29-2023, 02:06 PM   #6766
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No, they are vented to the outside
This article seems to suggest it’s potentially an issue as well though. I have a gas stove, but I’d want to see how big of an issue this is before I’d consider changing. The furnace is a whole other issue, and I’d be more reluctant on that front. Electric heating would cost a fortune.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/gas-...tion-1.6394514
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Old 01-29-2023, 02:11 PM   #6767
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I've never in my life bothered with the ignore feature, as I find this place does a decent enough job taking out the trash.

I don't want to hide from opinions and views that don't align with my own, in fact I greatly value being challenged on my own biases and echo chambers that I may encounter.

That said, I can't take this ####ing clown ruining this place any longer, and will reach for the ignore button for the first time. But mods, can we please seriously get real about this?

Just because a poster doesn't resort to personal attacks or foul language doesn't mean they aren't extremely damaging to the community and what this place is supposed to be. If you look up the definition of troll, this is it. I've seen about 50 attempts at generating discourse with Yoho in the last month. Zero have been taken up. There is no good faith here. This is someone getting stroking their tiny ego but yanking us all around, and we're just letting it happen.

Please make it stop.
Even if they don't ban him at least change his name. I'll never view Yoho National Park the same.
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This article seems to suggest it’s potentially an issue as well though. I have a gas stove, but I’d want to see how big of an issue this is before I’d consider changing. The furnace is a whole other issue, and I’d be more reluctant on that front. Electric heating would cost a fortune.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/gas-...tion-1.6394514
It was never an issue before they started building air-tight houses. Let those gasses escape.
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who the #### wants to cook with a gas stove when the vast majority of industrialized nations are seriously discussing blending in pure H2 to gas streams at 20-30% volumes?
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Old 01-29-2023, 08:57 PM   #6770
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who the #### wants to cook with a gas stove when the vast majority of industrialized nations are seriously discussing blending in pure H2 to gas streams at 20-30% volumes?
Why exactly is that a problem?
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Old 01-29-2023, 10:03 PM   #6771
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Why exactly is that a problem?
One issue would be flame speed. Hydrogen combusts faster than natural gas so needs higher exit velocities in your burner tip to avoid flashing back into the burner tip.

So kind of like the different port sizes when going from gas to propane.

Id also be concerned with material compatibility and cracking (though that is why I think a lot of the hydrogen mix will be in power generation added locally rather than in distribution to small burners. At low % though the Hydrogen cracking problems initially appear manageable.
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Old 01-30-2023, 06:08 AM   #6772
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was there this kind of pushback when governments started regulating lead out of gasoline?

I don't get it.
That was back when the scientists, government and the worldwide health system cabal weren't out to kill us all.
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Old 01-30-2023, 06:59 AM   #6773
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People were against removing lead because of performance losses and companies campaigned against because of cost. It appears similar to many current issues we face. So suggesting people were smarter then isn’t exactly the case.

More like cigarettes and global warming than Covid.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40593353.amp

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Old 01-30-2023, 08:04 AM   #6774
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Off topic, but we went with an induction stove and it's amazing. Highly recommended over gas. LOL
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Off topic, but we went with an induction stove and it's amazing. Highly recommended over gas. LOL
We did as well. Although we did have to upgrade our pots and pans as well.

Some don't work on induction.
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1620074358717693952

Close race.
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Old 01-30-2023, 08:37 AM   #6777
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We did as well. Although we did have to upgrade our pots and pans as well.



Some don't work on induction.
We did too. Unfortunately, 2 of 4 burners are now non-working (less than 5 years old.) Was told it'll cost more than a new stove to fix. Quality these days is really lacking. Samsung Chef Collection.
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Old 01-30-2023, 09:02 AM   #6778
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It was never an issue before they started building air-tight houses. Let those gasses escape.
I think air tight homes are likely exacerbating other indoor air quality issues as well. Eg radon, mold, etc. I dont think the energy savings are likely worth the human health issues.

Although I've gotten much better about using my fan every time I use the gas stove now. It's vented outside and high cfm. Plus my house is from the early 80s so has a good amount of "natural air flow"...
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Old 01-30-2023, 09:04 AM   #6779
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Well, I’m an abandoned centrist. I know they don’t post in this thread, but the actual conservatives who know me have to be dying of laughter to see me branded as a conservative!
Lol. Am I the only one who remembers Slava getting accused of being a Liberal in the Federal politics thread over and over again like he was the vanguard of the CP leftist elite? If the right says he's on the left and the left says he's a right winger he probably really is a centrist.
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Old 01-30-2023, 09:15 AM   #6780
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I think air tight homes are likely exacerbating other indoor air quality issues as well. Eg radon, mold, etc. I dont think the energy savings are likely worth the human health issues.
Are heat recovery ventilators becoming more common at all? That seems like the best of both worlds. Air tight house, HRV to exchange outside air without the full energy impact of pumping your heat outside.
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