[PGT] Flames 4 Gaudreau 3 (OT Win)

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bingo

It's all about crossing it ... making the goalie move.

A high danger chance is a rebound, deflection or pass into the homeplate area. Across the royal road the puck transfers through it to the other side.

The Flames have all kinds of shots in the home plate area (and on the royal road), but usually carry it there themselves with a set goalie waiting for them.

Quick one touch passes and one timers / quick releases in the offensive zone are an issue for this team.

I think it's actually a reason where Huberdeau looks less effective - his game isn't like Gaudreau where you skate around the zone until a passing lane opens up. It's making those quick one - twos to get into space.

There were a couple instances last night where he made a quick pass to Lucic or Kadri, and you could see him get himself into position for a quick pass back, but they just held on to it.

It's the issue with our PP too - rarely two passes in quick succession. It's pass, look for a shot, look for a shot, slow pass. Then repeat.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Quick one touch passes and one timers / quick releases in the offensive zone are an issue for this team.

I think it's actually a reason where Huberdeau looks less effective - his game isn't like Gaudreau where you skate around the zone until a passing lane opens up. It's making those quick one - twos to get into space.

There were a couple instances last night where he made a quick pass to Lucic or Kadri, and you could see him get himself into position for a quick pass back, but they just held on to it.

It's the issue with our PP too - rarely two passes in quick succession. It's pass, look for a shot, look for a shot, slow pass. Then repeat.

And why I think you're on to something with Dube on Huberdeau's other wing.

He's more of a take it give it back kind of guy with foot speed.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Just watching the replay...that call on Huberdeau is something else

He got called for fighting through interference

Can you share this replay?

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Bingo

And why I think you're on to something with Dube on Huberdeau's other wing.

He's more of a take it give it back kind of guy with foot speed.

Really this is Pelletier too, albeit with a little more finesse. Once he gets acclimated to the NHL game, anyway.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

There were a couple instances last night where he made a quick pass to Lucic or Kadri, and you could see him get himself into position for a quick pass back, but they just held on to it.

Kadri seems like a guy that would be nearly as effective with a couple pylons on his wings, which can be a good thing if you lack depth. He does not seem like he elevates those around him, and I'd rather see him with some speedy, hard forechecking #### disturbers to see what they do together.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Can you share this replay?

I meant replay of the game on SN...so no, not really

Flames are about to have a 2 on 1, Huberdeau is interfered with but fights through and knocks down the CBJ player

Ref sees a guy fall down and calls a Flames penalty

[Lanny_McDonald]

Wasn't a pretty, but it was a win. Absolutely scary that it took OT to finish off the worst team in the league. Take the two points, burn the tape, and never mention this game again.

I think Pelletier played quite well last night and deserves more ice time. Time to send Lucic to the 4th line and promote Duehr or Pelletier to the Kadri line. Lucic is just embarrassingly bad and killing that line more than he helps it and a young guy with some type of skating ability would greatly help out Huberdeau and Kadri.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Kadri seems like a guy that would be nearly as effective with a couple pylons on his wings, which can be a good thing if you lack depth. He does not seem like he elevates those around him, and I'd rather see him with some speedy, hard forechecking #### disturbers to see what they do together.

Kadri is a puck carrier and shooter. He can't pass to save his life. It has to be wide open, or drop pass for him to connect. Watch him closely next game, he either won't pass or he makes a terrible one.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Quick one touch passes and one timers / quick releases in the offensive zone are an issue for this team.

I think it's actually a reason where Huberdeau looks less effective - his game isn't like Gaudreau where you skate around the zone until a passing lane opens up. It's making those quick one - twos to get into space.

There were a couple instances last night where he made a quick pass to Lucic or Kadri, and you could see him get himself into position for a quick pass back, but they just held on to it.

It's the issue with our PP too - rarely two passes in quick succession. It's pass, look for a shot, look for a shot, slow pass. Then repeat.

If you watch some earlier replays he really gets into wide open spots and opens himself up for a shot. Kadri just holds the puck way too long needs to let the quick passing game develop. It's not just Kadri I find our team holds the puck a few seconds longer instead of getting it off their stick and making the goalie movie. Once the goalie is set it just makes work so much harder to score has to be a prefect shot and we don't have those shooters.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Kadri is a puck carrier and shooter. He can't pass to save his life. It has to be wide open, or drop pass for him to connect. Watch him closely next game, he either won't pass or he makes a terrible one.

Can you imagine if we still had JG (but no Huberdeau) and Kadri (in place of MT) on a line. Would be something.

Oh well, in the words of Tony Soprano, "That's a shame. What'cha gonna do...?"

[Hockey_Ninja]

I do wonder. If Ritchie is ready to go soon, are both Duehr and Pelletier headed back down to the Wranglers?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

I'm sure it was discussed in the GT, but Peltier made some really smart, high skilled plays that didn't necessarily show up on the score sheet, but that tell me that he's going to be able to cut it at the NHL level.

There was a play that really stuck out he went in alone late in the shift instead of forcing a pass or just dumping it in he kept possession along the boards once the change was complete he dumped it I'm for a fresh linemates to forecheck and went for his change.

Not only is a great play but it's a play I wish we used more often don't just dump and change hold the puck and get the change so you have guys lined up instead of scrambling to get on the ice.

Little details go a long way in preserving wins.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

I do wonder. If Ritchie is ready to go soon, are both Duehr and Pelletier headed back down to the Wranglers?

I think Ritchie is on a 2 way deal? I would waive him.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Igottago

I only caught the first half of the game but it was really interesting to watch Johnny (Gaudreau) on the opposition. The skills are there, the talent is obvious. But for some reason, he didn't seem very threatening? I know he ended up having a good game too with a couple nice assists. But maybe that's what other teams noticed all these years when playing the Flames...he's a good player but somewhat easy to overcome. Maybe he is just never going to be the guy that will strike fear into the opposition, despite being a really good player.

Give the Flames credit here. They know Johnny's game and tendencies well and didn't give him any time or space when they could help it.

[TheSquatch]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Give the Flames credit here. They know Johnny's game and tendencies well and didn't give him any time or space when they could help it.

And Vladar on Johnny's penalty shot - Johnny's almost a one-trick pony with that, skate not-very-wide left, and shoot high glove, across the goalie's body.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

I do wonder. If Ritchie is ready to go soon, are both Duehr and Pelletier headed back down to the Wranglers?

They have both the roster and cap space to keep them both, if they want to.

Since they have a big break coming up after the next 2 games, I suspect they'll both be sent down after Friday's game (followed by much wailing from the usual suspects).


The severity of Tanev's injury will probably be a big factor too.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by getbak

They have both the roster and cap space to keep them both, if they want to.

Since they have a big break coming up after the next 2 games, I suspect they'll both be sent down after Friday's game (followed by much wailing from the usual suspects).


The severity of Tanev's injury will probably be a big factor too.

Good point.

If it is long term, and im guessings that a real posibility from what it looked like, then Tre has to address that void over the break or the season is in peril IMO.

They need another solid 4 guy at the very least.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

There was a play that really stuck out he went in alone late in the shift instead of forcing a pass or just dumping it in he kept possession along the boards once the change was complete he dumped it I'm for a fresh linemates to forecheck and went for his change.

Not only is a great play but it's a play I wish we used more often don't just dump and change hold the puck and get the change so you have guys lined up instead of scrambling to get on the ice.

Little details go a long way in preserving wins.

That's one that I was thinking about. There was also a play where he took a pass off his skate, kicked it up to his stick without missing a stride, and gained the zone (all at game speed). It takes confidence (and skill) to make the kind of play in your second game.

[activeStick]

I'd guess it's probably a 50/50 split among fans on whether they want fighting to remain or go from the game, but I suspect the majority of NHL players would prefer it stayed.

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[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I call it the landing strip

Thank you for saying it so I didn't have to