Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[undercoverbrother]

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[Yoho]

Interesting article parallels.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616462449544253440

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Interesting article parallels.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616462449544253440

Well is it?

Do you think it is?

If so why?

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I remember when the WE inquiry was going on, I remarked that I loved PP’s tenacity and thought he should be the CPC PM candidate. Someone on here replied that PP is best used in an “attack dog” role and would make a horribly unlikeable PM candidate. Were they ever right.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Well is it?

Do you think it is?

If so why?

Well I'd say strategically for the Liberals a sudden resignation of Trudeau within 6 months of the next election is probably the best case scenario.

The Conns commit far too much of their energy demonizing a perfectly mediocre PM, and it might leave a lot of their campaign arguments empty, if the Liberals can pivot to someone else has shortly before the writ.

Not really certain how that compare to Arden who just seemed to be excessively genuine for politics, and I haven't read the articles but I assume she just burnt out from that.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by #-3

Well I'd say strategically for the Liberals a sudden resignation of Trudeau within 6 months of the next election is probably the best case scenario.

The Conns commit far too much of their energy demonizing a perfectly mediocre PM, and it might leave a lot of their campaign arguments empty, if the Liberals can pivot to someone else has shortly before the writ.

Not really certain how that compare to Arden who just seemed to be excessively genuine for politics, and I haven't read the articles but I assume she just burnt out from that.

Her party pushed her out. Her popularity was in the tank, she'd become pretty hated, and they were looking at a devastating loss in the next election.

[Yoho]

May job sharing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616512610249150486

[CaptainCrunch]

Speaking of someone that needs to be forcibly thrown into the snow. Good old Liz comes along.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Her party pushed her out. Her popularity was in the tank, she'd become pretty hated, and they were looking at a devastating loss in the next election.

Are we sure that's all it was? I've read several articles that mention the amount of hatred and threats leaders like her and also in Canada and the U.S. receive from the right/far-right now. It's gross.

And initially, her management of Covid-19 saw her lead her Labour Party to a landslide victory in 2020, but as draconian lockdowns kept New Zealanders at home and its borders closed, her popularity began to wane.

She has been the subject of often-vile abuse by the anti-vax movement and other populist-inspired right-wing protest groups in New Zealand.

It was evident in her resignation remarks on Thursday that the pressure had had an impact and caused her to doubt whether she could lead her party into the election scheduled for October.

"This summer, I had hoped to find a way to prepare not just for another year but another term because that is what this year requires; I have not been able to do that," she said.

So, after the 2020 landslide, no longer in coalition with the conservative NZ First Party, Labour launched a raft of reforms covering water, the health system, resource management and planning, broadcasting and climate change.

Added to that was a renewed emphasis on Maori rights under the Treaty of Waitangi and decolonisation, which saw a new history curriculum for schools and increasing moves to co-Maori-European governance of public bodies.

Each reform provoked opposition, and by the middle of last year, after a prolonged anti-vax protest camp on Parliament's lawn had finally been removed after a violent confrontation between protesters and police, a substantial anti-Ardern mood was evident, particularly in provincial New Zealand.

Data released in June last year indicated that police-recorded threats against Ms Ardern had almost tripled over three years.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64328433

A mother with a young child continually getting rape and death threats, I don't blame her one iota for getting out, regardless of what any polling said.

[Izzle]

It seems like it's the extreme right wings that dabble in stochastic terrorism.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Izzle

It seems like it's the extreme right wings that dabble in stochastic terrorism.

And then blame the left for being so divisive.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

And then blame the left for being so divisive.

A lot of similar styles in leadership to someone we know. She will be sadly missed and sucks when the chickens come home to roost.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616184487250903065

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

And then blame the left for being so divisive.

Or the left needs to be less corrupt so that we're comfortable voting them.

Hey all parties are corrupt to done extent. Just don't mix that corruption with extreme right ethos.

Using the US House as an example... The extreme right wing freedom caucus wants to shut down government and have a history pandering to Jan 6 stochastic terrorists.

What does the extreme left squad want? Appropriate climate change legislation, greener economy and an equitable society for women, minorities, LGBTQ.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616566776392736769

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Yoho

A lot of similar styles in leadership to someone we know. She will be sadly missed and sucks when the chickens come home to roost.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616184487250903065

Christ, you really watch some toxic, gross stuff Yoho. This clip isn't news, it's someone on the right going into the sewer trying to smear somebody.

Be better than this garbage.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616566776392736769

You'd think the Liberals or PMO office would create a position for a person who's job is to not let Liberals do stupid $$$$. With their track record these things look bad.

[Yoho]

Sorry you disagree with it. Just because it’s not MSM doesn’t mean it’s not someone’s first hand account. You’ll be waiting a long time to read or watch critical news stories on Trudeau from CBC only.

You painted her as the victim, I think it’s fair to illustrate what she has done to others in her time in office.


“ GB News is a British free-to-air television and radio news channel. The channel is available on Freeview, Freesat, Sky, YouView, Virgin Media and via the internet. Since 4 January 2022, an audio simulcast of the station is available on DAB+ radio.”

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Sorry you disagree with it. Just because it’s not MSM doesn’t mean it’s not someone’s first hand account. You’ll be waiting a long time to read or watch critical news stories on Trudeau from CBC only.

You painted her as the victim, I think it’s fair to illustrate what she has done to others in her time in office.


“ GB News is a British free-to-air television and radio news channel. The channel is available on Freeview, Freesat, Sky, YouView, Virgin Media and via the internet. Since 4 January 2022, an audio simulcast of the station is available on DAB+ radio.”

1) First hand account? The guy is in Britain.
2) No idea why you are bringing up Trudeau.
3) I posted another reason why she may be out as PM, rather than strictly just doing poor in the polls. As someone with a mom, wife and daughter I get my back up when I see people send rape and death threats to women in power. It's grotesque. Easy to see why it may be a big reason she's done.
4) Really couldn't care less where GB News is available. It doesn't mean anything. Fox News is available everywhere and it's pure trash.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Just because it’s not MSM ... GB News is a British free-to-air television and radio news channel. The channel is available on Freeview, Freesat, Sky, YouView, Virgin Media and via the internet. Since 4 January 2022, an audio simulcast of the station is available on DAB+ radio.”

Sounds pretty mainstream to me. GB News must be all lies, as it's far too available. On the internet? You don't get more mainstream than that!

[Playfair]

Just an observation I’ve made. I have lurked on this page for awhile. Post a little bit. But it’s interesting how the dynamic of this page, which was once far more conservative, has become quite liberal. Also being located in Alberta seems, at least to my observation, out of sync with the rest of Alberta. I may be way off base, and it is a very generalized view, but it is what I’ve observed. Maybe because the definition of “liberal “ and “conservative “ has changed drastically since I joined. Maybe the changes in society in general. I don’t know. Forgive me if I shouldn’t have posted this but it is something I’ve been observing over the years.

Nevertheless I always have appreciated this page and all of you.