Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Fuzz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616217747264008192

[Barnes]

The office of Vice President Selina Meyer ran like a well oiled machine compared to this clown show.

[Ozy_Flame]

Those who know, know.

[Fuzz]

Here comes the bus!

Spoiler!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616241709012189184

[Reggie Dunlop]

One of the Matts will take the fall.... only to show up on some lobbyist registry in a few months.

[RedHot25]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616242998374981635

Pfft, it's a...

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Those who know, know.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616201622086094849


I’ll save the “I told you so’s”

Pwned!!1

Also, you still haven’t confirmed if you’re a racist piece of #### or not.

What makes you keep avoiding the question?

[timun]

Originally Posted by Muta

Yoho every single time in this thread:

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616201622086094849


I’ll save the “I told you so’s”

Did you even read the article? Lol, he says Smith is lieing about what Just Transition is to make political points and it's working.

"The federal government, though, is not talking about killing any jobs but trying to look realistically at how many workers might need federal help if their jobs disappear because of corporate decisions in a lower-carbon world."

"Smith’s stance is cynical, manipulative and unfair. But, boy, if history is any indication, it will prove remarkably effective."

Which is actually exactly what I said earlier, so yeah, told you so

[MBates]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616247618988044288

At first glance, this thread might seem like hyperbole, but I share it because it comes from a lawyer who is relatively well-known for fighting many legal battles for the underdogs of society in Alberta. And when you are in those battles, being able to unquestionably know that the rules are not subject to political manipulation goes to the legitimacy of the entire system.

The point he is making is that when the rules ensuring the good faith impartiality of state-prosecutions are ignored by the Executive Council you can descend almost immediately into a failed state.

How can we say that people claiming to be political prisoners should have those spurious complaints ignored...if we learn that politicians are in fact attempting to dictate who gets prosecuted for crimes and who gets to walk...for the express purpose of appeasing an absurd political campaign promise?

How can we as lawyers ask our clients to respect decisions that do not go their way and peacefully comply with the rule of law if it is being obliterated and torqued against them by political actors?

If you are a public NDP supporter, do you feel safe knowing that your UCP political opponents are meddling in who gets to keep liberty and who should be locked up? Overtly attempting to control police - the people in our society granted the powers of arrest and the authority to decide when to use lethal force?

Am I safe now that I have acted as counsel to more than one NDP MLA? Particularly if I do good work and succeed? Do I become a threat to the UCP? Would they interfere with the prosecutor or maybe even the judge and make known what the preferred outcome should be in a court case involving me?

These are questions we are never supposed to have to ask - and really, we have not had to before. Because the rule of law and the bedrock principles attached to it are to be treated as immovable, unassailable - to be respected even when it is hard.

It is not alarmist to say that if the silent majority stays silent...and does not demand an immediate course correction back to accountability to the rule of law, we are really not going to like the Alberta we end up living in.

Are we on the way farther than we would like to admit? Consider these quotes from the decision of the retired police Superintendent - accepting a joint submission to allow two Lethbridge Police officers to keep their jobs after conducting unlawful targeted surveillance of a sitting Cabinet Minister:

Sgt. Carrier was aware that Cst. Woronuk, like him, opposed some of the NDP government policies and did not support Minister Phillips' policies as Minister of Environment and Parks.

...

Cst. Woronuk admits that he had no lawful reason to commit his CPIC search and was motivated to do so by his personal and political views.

...

When it is found that a police officer is using their position and the powers conferred on that position to advance their personal and or political beliefs, there can be and often is a loss of trust and confidence in the agency as a whole.

...

This is a matter where the cited officers put their self-interests ahead of their oath of office...

...

Sergeant Carrier's inaction and tacit approval of Constable Woronuk's intentions is disappointing. It is also profoundly serious. No person should be targeted by the police based on the police officer's personal or political views.

So, we have passed the point where police officers can do all of those things and not lose their jobs. Fast forward only a few years and here we are facing whether to allow it to creep up to where a Premier can openly tell everyone about how she regularly questions prosecutors about the conduct of their files and then after denying doing that which she said (because people pointed out how unlawful that would be) we find out a 'staffer' in her office may well have done exactly that?

In this light, Mr. Nanda's warnings do not seem hyperbolic at all. And I hope that Albertans will care enough to demand accountability that is in alignment with the severity of any transgressions that may have occurred against our free and democratic society.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by MBates

In this light, Mr. Nanda's warnings do not seem hyperbolic at all. And I hope that Albertans will care enough to demand accountability that is in alignment with the severity of any transgressions that may have occurred against our free and democratic society.

Sure, but the NDP spent money on lightbulbs, so…

[RedHot25]

Yup. In normal times, with normal people, a Justice Minister would be gone - as in completely out of government - as would the Premier. But this is...welp.

[Looch City]

From Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/Calgary/comment...ight_danielle/

Apparently Smith showed up at TLOU screening yesterday lol. People clapped and then booed hahah.

She’s REALLY desperate.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Torture

Did you even read the article? Lol, he says Smith is lieing about what Just Transition is to make political points and it's working.

"The federal government, though, is not talking about killing any jobs but trying to look realistically at how many workers might need federal help if their jobs disappear because of corporate decisions in a lower-carbon world."

"Smith’s stance is cynical, manipulative and unfair. But, boy, if history is any indication, it will prove remarkably effective."

Which is actually exactly what I said earlier, so yeah, told you so

It’s about winning, I said Trudeau is handing this election to Smith and nothing you posted shows I was “Lieing”

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Yoho

It’s about winning, I said Trudeau is handing this election to Smith and nothing you posted shows I was “Lieing”

Hindi mo binabasa ang mga artikulong ipino-post mo, at maling-maling interpretasyon mo ang mga ito.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Hindi mo binabasa ang mga artikulong ipino-post mo, at maling-maling interpretasyon mo ang mga ito.

in my mind I see him looking at this text, hissing and looking away as his skin burns like a vampire exposed to a crucifix or garlic

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Yoho

It’s about winning, I said Trudeau is handing this election to Smith and nothing you posted shows I was “Lieing”

Reading comprehension much? I didnt say YOU were lying I said that in the article you posted as a "told ya so" Graham Thomson wrote that Smith was lying about Just Transition.

[Monahammer]

It is abundantly clear that yoho is illiterate, why is anyone assuming they can read?

[Major Major]

Was probably home schooled to prevent the insidious creep of foreignality into his world.

Your
Own
Home
Oducation

Makes sense

[Slava]

Honestly, the constant bashing of Yoho is just killing this thread. How it can be fine to have personal attack after personal attack on them is just beyond me. It's what kills political debates in general, in my opinion, because people aren't going to debate and can't just have an actual conversation about the issues at hand.

And before someone gives me the "well, what kind of debate is Yoho providing here?!", can you blame them? Like it's allegation after allegation about them and how stupid they are or whatever. It's tiresome.

To top it all off though, the truth is they probably just troll you guys who can't resist it now.

Anyway...just my thoughts and I'm sure that I'll be flamed for them.