So, in following the last number of pages in this thread, people are concerned that the federal government is orchestrating effectively a national, and leading a global coordination effort with bad powerful elites, to take over our oil and gas in the country to force it out of business and everyone working in it out of a job....yet, we have a Premier who quite literally believes the laws and customs of the US apply and follow here, including her ability to directly interfere in our legal and justice system to do as she pleases with pardons, coupled with providing about 7 different reasons for why she thought she could do what she was planning to?
(** yes the first part re: the feds and oil and gas workers is grossly simplified/overly stated....but the second part about our Premier is not. Its right above in Fuzz's post. And yet.....here we are).
In a sane world, you are correct. A transition is happening whether we like it or not due to global market forces, not Justin Trudeau. We can have that transition be "just" for Alberta where we take part in the green economy with solar, wind, hydrogen, carbon capture, etc, or "unjust". And as mentioned, it's not even a Liberal invention, it came from the international agreement in Paris. Anyways, given those two options I'll take just rather than leaving behind Oil and Gas workers.
Also, the smoking gun memo was something like page 68 of an 88 page report and was a giant nothingburger. But that's the sane world.
In Danielle Smith right wing culture war world it's an attack on Oil and Gas and our way of life(!) by the Eastern elites and your average Calgary Sun reader will take it hook line and sinker because it perfectly frames up "Smith fighting for Alberta"
It's as non-sensical as the Sovereignty Act but honestly, I'm afraid that it's going to work. Facts don't seem to matter anymore.
Facts like Canada is less then 2% of global emissions? Facts like China and India are currently building new coal power plants? Facts like oil demand is still increasing? Facts like there is no real alternative to fossil fuels yet? Those kind of facts? Because ya they don't seem to matter.
Facts like Canada is less then 2% of global emissions? Facts like China and India are currently building new coal power plants? Facts like oil demand is still increasing? Facts like there is no real alternative to fossil fuels yet? Those kind of facts? Because ya they don't seem to matter.
When is the right time to start considering actions?
When is the right time to start considering actions?
Don't you think it is madness for the "leader" of a country to try and "phase out" an industry that is currently booming and provides billions in tax dollars and untold numbers of high quality jobs (not to mention providing essential energy), all for the purpose of trying to reduce a less than 2% carbon footprint? This doesn't have anything to do with climate change, it is Trudeau sacrificing Alberta for the purpose of global virtue signaling. If you live in Alberta and this doesn't make you angry there is something wrong with you. If you are Canadian and you don't question this madness at all, you must hate your country.
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Don't you think it is madness for the "leader" of a country to try and "phase out" an industry that is currently booming and provides billions in tax dollars and untold numbers of high quality jobs (not to mention providing essential energy), all for the purpose of trying to reduce a less than 2% carbon footprint? This doesn't have anything to do with climate change, it is Trudeau sacrificing Alberta for the purpose of global virtue signaling. If you live in Alberta and this doesn't make you angry there is something wrong with you. If you are Canadian and you don't question this madness at all, you must hate your country.
You seem rational.
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Let's just ride this wave until the oil market slowly collapses and we are the West Virginia of Canada. thousands of roughnecks with little to no competitive skills looking for $100k+ jobs in a society that no longer values their work the same.
No sense in preparing for a future everyone seems to see coming
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Don't you think it is madness for the "leader" of a country to try and "phase out" an industry that is currently booming and provides billions in tax dollars and untold numbers of high quality jobs (not to mention providing essential energy), all for the purpose of trying to reduce a less than 2% carbon footprint? This doesn't have anything to do with climate change, it is Trudeau sacrificing Alberta for the purpose of global virtue signaling. If you live in Alberta and this doesn't make you angry there is something wrong with you. If you are Canadian and you don't question this madness at all, you must hate your country.
You really should change your name to strawman, because all your arguments are made up. This isn't what is happening. It's about preparing Canada for the inevitable energy transition with the knowledge that the world will eventually reduce it's uses of fossil fuels. You can either be the chef, or be the chicken. Take your pick.
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You really should change your name to strawman, because all your arguments are made up. This isn't what is happening. It's about preparing Canada for the inevitable energy transition with the knowledge that the world will eventually reduce it's uses of fossil fuels. You can either be the chef, or be the chicken. Take your pick.
This energy transition you speak of is at least 30 years away, if not more.
Trudeau should be focusing on inflation and lowering fuel costs, not increasing taxes and phasing out essential industries. He is not going to be the one to save the world from climate change, someone needs to tell him that.
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So, in following the last number of pages in this thread, people are concerned that the federal government is orchestrating effectively a national, and leading a global coordination effort with bad powerful elites, to take over our oil and gas in the country to force it out of business and everyone working in it out of a job....yet, we have a Premier who quite literally believes the laws and customs of the US apply and follow here, including her ability to directly interfere in our legal and justice system to do as she pleases with pardons, coupled with providing about 7 different reasons for why she thought she could do what she was planning to?
(** yes the first part re: the feds and oil and gas workers is grossly simplified/overly stated....but the second part about our Premier is not. Its right above in Fuzz's post. And yet.....here we are).
And, right on cue, in the Alberta politics thread nonetheless.
Don't you think it is madness for the "leader" of a country to try and "phase out" an industry that is currently booming and provides billions in tax dollars and untold numbers of high quality jobs (not to mention providing essential energy), all for the purpose of trying to reduce a less than 2% carbon footprint? This doesn't have anything to do with climate change, it is Trudeau sacrificing Alberta for the purpose of global virtue signaling. If you live in Alberta and this doesn't make you angry there is something wrong with you. If you are Canadian and you don't question this madness at all, you must hate your country.
If that were happening I would be outraged but it's not.
This energy transition you speak of is at least 30 years away, if not more.
Trudeau should be focusing on inflation and lowering fuel costs, not increasing taxes and phasing out essential industries. He is not going to be the one to save the world from climate change, someone needs to tell him that.
This is the main problem I ever have with energy transition. Honestly, 30 years might be generous. I would estimate the timeline to be closer to 50, just based on the speed that anything happens at a federal and global level.
Setting impossible timelines bothers me a lot.
Even if everything falls right, and something like fusion becomes a reality, we are talking about decades before they start to come online.
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