[PGT] Preds 2 Flames 1

[dino7c]

when Paulie is calling you out for trolling you know its bad lol

sorry Paulie but come on now...you were banned for a reason guy

much better lately, I have even thanked multiple posts of yours

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Yikes

Flames hockey is boring.

Your schtick is boring


And pointless I might add

[Ferarri]

Obviously at the end of the day wins and loses are all that matters. Make the playoffs and it’s a whole new season, however, as a fan there are other storylines that make the team intriguing.

Take for example last year, we had the narrative about Johnny breaking 100 points, and how high could he go. Would Matthew Tkachuk break 100 points for the first time in his career. Could we potentially have four 30 goal scorers on the team, and what would the battle of Alberta look like with the infamous Tkachuk friendship tour.

The team this year has none of that. There isn’t a single storyline that has been overly appealing to me. The only one that peaked my interest was Phillips and that was short lived and immediately shut down after a few games.

In my opinion this team lacks character and an identity. There is nothing to get excited about and no hero’s to rally around. I point the finger at the coaches for their reluctance to try something different. Perhaps Phillips could have been a game breaker if provided with a chance and adequate playing time. Maybe Pelletier could have gotten Huberdeau going but at this rate it seems likely that he may not even get a shot.

I fully acknowledge that the main responsibility is to win games and obviously Sutter and company have a different vision than me. As a fan though I have personally not stepped foot in the Dome this year and this is coming from a former season ticket holder than attended every single home game. I find very little excitement from this group and the more concerning part for me is the reluctance to care. I just don’t resonate with this cast of players and the team feels “cold” if that makes any sense.

Apathy is strong and in conversations with some of my friends and co workers they tend to feel the same way. In no way am I insinuating that I have a pulse on the team but ownership and management should be concerned if this feeling starts to spread. Being a mediocre non playoff team with no exciting stars in the pipeline doesn’t sell a lot of tickets.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Just seen the Alberta thread and indeed came out and let us know he's a racist and won't be doing anything about it.

Don't think I've ever seen someone acknowledge it so openly and not change.

Coles notes?

[All In Good Time]

I’m still quite positive about this year, we’ve been seeing steady improvement over the last 6 weeks and even though tonight’s game wasn’t great, we only lost by one.
If we keep improving, I’d suspect we will see things “click”, confidence will increase, character will develop and then we will really see what this group is.

As an aside, I’d like to see the stats for the first year of a player who signs their first big contract and how that first season compares with the rest of their career. It seems to me that you see a dip in performance that first year quite often. It must be a mind bending change.

[dino7c]

I think people forget that last year was by far the best season for the "old core" its not like every year was like that...goaltending was great, no injuries, career years.

and then they lost in 5 games to the Oilers in round two in embarrassing fashion

This team is getting better as the season goes along IMO...results seem to show that.

Even if Tkachuk and Gaudreau were here there would almost certainly be more regular season struggles this season...for one thing they would have had to clear the cap space somehow not to mention the goaltending.

[Mathgod]

^ agreed, people are overreacting to a loss to arg the hottest goalie in the league right now.

[bigrangy]

20 minute effort so not surprising it was worth no points

PP continues to be dog####, that needs to be fixed above all else. Carolina has the same problem but at least they dominate 5 on 5. Every other team with a PP as bad as the Flames is trying to lose games.

Saros wasn’t tested, should have been a pretty easy shutout for him barring one giveaway. Coleman was hilariously bad up until that takeaway. I counted 4 giveaways in his previous 2 shifts leading up to that. Tanev saved him once but at least he got the takeaway that mattered.

One really east way to fix the PP would be to tank for Bedard. Do it.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Huberdeau PPG for the road trip...he had a #### game like a lot of guys tonight

still its a one goal loss with some bad bounces against

Lots of good bounces for, if you count crossbars and posts. Fleury would be talking to his net a lot if he was in Marky’s net tonight

The shots they piled up in the third were not too darn threatening

Fine road trip. Bad game.

Looking forward to moving past it

[Goriders]

39 shots. 1 goal. Only competed for about 10 minutes.

Not a good recipe for success

[Classic_Sniper]

Loss tonight is what it is, Nashville was the better team and earned the win. But in terms of the road trip overall, it could've went worse. For how it started, I'll take 6 points in 5 games.

Although, they definitely did miss out on the chance to make turn a good road trip into a great road trip by securing at least another point or 2. Losses to Nashville and St Louis weren't ideal either as they're competition when it comes to the final wildcard playoff position.

In terms of positives though, the continuity from all the 3 lines is starting to create much needed depth scoring. I don't remember the Flames having such a strong 3rd line for quite some time.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Some thoughts on Huberdeau. He's reading a totally different book than the rest of his team mates, let alone being on the same page. By that I mean he's making world class plays but everyone else isn't even aware of it. I can't tell anymore if he's a genius swimming in a pond of derps. Or he's really really forcing plays to materialize out of thin air.

Personally, I think it's the latter. I don't know if I like the idea of crushing the rest of the Flames' lineup to excuse Huberdeau's uneven play. From what I've seen, the guy clearly has great vision and can find open players, but I'm just not so sure about the reliability of his execution. The majority of his turnovers and misplays are him rushing forced passes, making risky plays and throwing it into coverage.

I think we've all season enough so far to at least draw some conclusions here and in my opinion, I don't think he’s the type of player who can play tight checking hockey and just conjure up chances out of thin air. It's almost like he needs the system itself to present him the opportunities (i.e. run & gun) where defense is loose, players are cheating and odd man rushes/breakaways are the norm.

[sonq]

What a piss poor effort. Jesus. Why couldn't they bring the effor from the Dallas game. It was so close to being a great road trip

What I don't understand, is how Knights are where they are in the standings and Preds are not higher.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Missed this one. Judging by the posts Marky played well, a goal was deservingly called back, and the team didn’t play that badly

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Coles notes?

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...88529&page=302

Start from here

"I don't like the Sikh having power"

[sonq]

Oh wow, after reading comments in Twitter, Flames fans are for sure worse than Oilers fans. Though I can't decide who's got worse problems; Flames or Oilers

[Tsawwassen]

Postgame links
https://stats.cbc.ca/hockey/nhl/recap/146394
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/games/2466343/
https://www.espn.com/nhl/game/_/gameId/401459288
https://scores.nbcsports.com/nhl/rec...s=3&final=true

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by sonq

Oh wow, after reading comments in Twitter, Flames fans are for sure worse than Oilers fans. Though I can't decide who's got worse problems; Flames or Oilers

This is not, and has never been, remotely close to true, by any metric.

Flames fans are often pessimistic/negative, but this is miles better than the utter delusion and obnoxiousness of Oiler fans.

[Toonage]

Been a while but the Flames finally get a TSN headline

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/calgary-flame...tors-1.1907214

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

Obviously at the end of the day wins and loses are all that matters. Make the playoffs and it’s a whole new season, however, as a fan there are other storylines that make the team intriguing.

Take for example last year, we had the narrative about Johnny breaking 100 points, and how high could he go. Would Matthew Tkachuk break 100 points for the first time in his career. Could we potentially have four 30 goal scorers on the team, and what would the battle of Alberta look like with the infamous Tkachuk friendship tour.

The team this year has none of that. There isn’t a single storyline that has been overly appealing to me. The only one that peaked my interest was Phillips and that was short lived and immediately shut down after a few games.

In my opinion this team lacks character and an identity. There is nothing to get excited about and no hero’s to rally around. I point the finger at the coaches for their reluctance to try something different. Perhaps Phillips could have been a game breaker if provided with a chance and adequate playing time. Maybe Pelletier could have gotten Huberdeau going but at this rate it seems likely that he may not even get a shot.

I fully acknowledge that the main responsibility is to win games and obviously Sutter and company have a different vision than me. As a fan though I have personally not stepped foot in the Dome this year and this is coming from a former season ticket holder than attended every single home game. I find very little excitement from this group and the more concerning part for me is the reluctance to care. I just don’t resonate with this cast of players and the team feels “cold” if that makes any sense.

Apathy is strong and in conversations with some of my friends and co workers they tend to feel the same way. In no way am I insinuating that I have a pulse on the team but ownership and management should be concerned if this feeling starts to spread. Being a mediocre non playoff team with no exciting stars in the pipeline doesn’t sell a lot of tickets.

I do agree with you that the current iteration of the Flames seems to be generating some apathy within the fanbase. I had a conversation with a friend where they typically go to a few Flames game per season, but has had no interest in doing so this season. And the Flames seem to be doing a lot of food/drinks promotions to try to encourage ticket sales. So I think that's a signal from there end that ticket sales isn't as easy this year compared to previous ones.