[PGT] Preds 2 Flames 1

[dammage79]

Some thoughts on Huberdeau. He's reading a totally different book than the rest of his team mates, let alone being on the same page. By that I mean he's making world class plays but everyone else isn't even aware of it. I can't tell anymore if he's a genius swimming in a pond of derps. Or he's really really forcing plays to materialize out of thin air.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I've literally just gone over this with my brother tonight. It's Sutter. Plain and simple. I'm torn on if it's a bad thing this year though. Gets these kids a clean slate in camp and go from there. My hope is Zary and Coronato finally graduate to the big club next year.

But Sutter is almost assuredly going to be the coach next year too. And Coronato has to sign before we can talk about making the team.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Huberdeau might've been the best player on his line tonight. No idea why he wasn't out for the 6v5.

But calling back the Toffoli goal was the obvious call. We'd be losing our minds if it counted the other way.

So obvious it took them 5 minutes to overturn the call on the ice...I can post examples of more egregious ones counting. Sutter said as much in his post game.

[Chingas]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Some thoughts on Huberdeau. He's reading a totally different book than the rest of his team mates, let alone being on the same page. By that I mean he's making world class plays but everyone else isn't even aware of it. I can't tell anymore if he's a genius swimming in a pond of derps. Or he's really really forcing plays to materialize out of thin air.

The real issue is that he's forcing too much into the opponents feet, and then not getting on his horse and getting the puck back. I expect better.

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Having the second most points in the west since December 3rd is probably part of it

Well that's fair.

I guess I'm looking for wins AND more energy. Let's have both!

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[dammage79]

Originally Posted by chedder

But Sutter is almost assuredly going to be the coach next year too. And Coronato has to sign before we can talk about making the team.

Like another poster said, the cap will make a lot of decisions that Sutter will simply have to deal with.

[traptor]

Markstrom had a good game. Hopefully he can build off of it.

2-1 with a goal called back against a team fighting with us for a wildcard. Sucks but the flames are a comparable team to the preds and have a coin flip chance against them.

Huberdeau has shown nothing close to a 10.5m player. It's fine this year at 5.9 but he could be one of the worst contracts in the league over the next couple years

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by dino7c

So obvious it took them 5 minutes to overturn the call on the ice...I can post examples of more egregious o es counting. Sutter said as much in his post game.

Right but the NHL is not super consistent on this stuff. I think if it had been NSH scoring, we'd be apoplectic if it counted. The GT was pretty much unanimous.

[Strange Brew]

Huberdeau needs to start making a difference. Having a coach asking you to play a complete game is no longer an excuse IMO.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Huh? Dube's playing well, engaging. Ruzicka has been very disinterested but

he is better than Dube? How?

I said he's been disinterested and doesn't deserve it, but he was much better with Lindholm and Toffoli than Dube has been.

Dube has had 3 points in his last 10 on the top line and one of those was an empty net goal. He's almost good most games but he tries to do way too much and plays die on his stick.

In that same time frame Lindholm has 8 points, Toffoli has 9.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Should have been 2-2

Not sure how they overturn it after such a long look...there are many examples of that counting

I'm OK with the call, but at the same time I think the Flames have gotten the short end of the stick with those toss-up reviews a fair bit in recent times

I didn't like the effort overall though so I'd say the result was earned

if they got it to OT it would've been one of those start the car kind of nights

start on time tonight and that review probably isn't the difference between earning points and going home empty handed

[WhiteTiger]

Ugh. Ah, well.

[MisterJoji]

I’m hoping Hubderdeau is just the kind of player that needs a full year or so before getting back their game after a big trade. Similar to Taylor Hall’s trade to the Devils. 1st season: 53 points in 72 GP (Huberdeau is on pace 62 points this year). Next season: 93 points in 76 GP (and the Hart). It’s easy to criticize after being spoiled by Johnny/Tkachuk’s seasons last year but of those 3 guys, Huberdeau is the only one who’s team is currently sitting in a playoff spot. I still believe him and Weegar will continue to improve to their career norms.

[Skaloper]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I'm OK with the call, but at the same time I think the Flames have gotten the short end of the stick with those toss-up reviews a fair bit in recent times



I didn't like the effort overall though so I'd say the result was earned



if they got it to OT it would've been one of those start the car kind of nights

It's a dumb call, the puck deflected and then it was a kicking motion. Good goal! Should have been 2-2

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[Delthefunky]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Some thoughts on Huberdeau. He's reading a totally different book than the rest of his team mates, let alone being on the same page. By that I mean he's making world class plays but everyone else isn't even aware of it. I can't tell anymore if he's a genius swimming in a pond of derps. Or he's really really forcing plays to materialize out of thin air.

No, he's not. He's making terrible decisions with the puck and his passes (which is kind of what he's known for) are easily read and intercepted and they kill.the play. If he was out there the last minute there's a better chance that he turns the puck over and we get scored on than he actually makes a game changing play.

He's big and strong, he should be taking games over. The Tanguay comparisons are not far off.

[GioforPM]

Flames were outplayed in 2 out of 3 periods, lost by 1 goal. Makes sense.

Too bad - it was a winnable game given the lack of goals by the Preds. Saros was solid but not tested a whole lot in the first two. He let in the softest goal of the game IMO. But he was good in the third.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Dube was like their best forward tonight?

How so? He was -1 with 3 sog. He was nowhere near their best forward. Coleman had a bad game he was +1 with 3 sog, Mangiapane didn't have a good game, he had 6 hits, 4 shots on net, and an assist, and had a plus minus of 0.

I think Dube could be a much better player, maybe it's our system I don't know but he reminds me of Bennett. Out there running around, almost good, then tries to do a little too much by himself.

Don't get me wrong, I want him to go on a tear.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I think huberdeau's single game performance is being blown up here. he needed to be better tonight, but he's had a lot of decent games in recent days too

don't let a short memory get the best of you

he's not earning 10.5 yet either. you'll have to save that one for next year

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

I said he's been disinterested and doesn't deserve it, but he was much better with Lindholm and Toffoli than Dube has been.

Dube has had 3 points in his last 10 on the top line and one of those was an empty net goal. He's almost good most games but he tries to do way too much and plays die on his stick.

In that same time frame Lindholm has 8 points, Toffoli has 9.

There you go, "was". If he shows the same hustle as Dube, may be Sutter will put him back there. One thing I can't stand player is "disinterest".

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by dino7c

So obvious it took them 5 minutes to overturn the call on the ice...I can post examples of more egregious ones counting. Sutter said as much in his post game.

The very first replay Sportsnet showed illustrated the kicking motions pretty clearly I thought. Much more clear cut than Coleman's disallowed goal last season.
After that one, I just assume it's not going to count every single time.