2022 NFL Season Thread

[devo22]

sounds more and more like McVay will be gone.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1612904039431409664

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I'd say there is no chance the Cardinals are that crazy...but...Bidwill's gotta Bidwill. This is a team whobin like 100 years have never had the same coach for 6 straight years.

Oh agreed, I don't see why a team would ever give up that high of a pick for a coach. I just read how they're currently the #1 choice (it seems to change daily, I think Payton is just really enjoying being courted and this could all turn into nothing), then I look up their draft position, and CHA-CHING! A man can dream...

[Nadal Fan]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I would think that should be the end of the Todd Downing experient in the NFL as an offensive coordinator but then again I thought he would never get another gig after the Raiders.

Derrick Henry had over 1,500 rushing yards with Downing as his OC , a terrible O-line and with QBs Dobbs and Willis playing like half the games......that's legit some GOAT #### right there. Put him in the Hall the second he retires

[Jason14h]

https://www.tsn.ca/nfl/roquan-smith-...ract-1.1904218

Also Arizona says they will be dealing Hopkins in the offseason

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by devo22

sounds more and more like McVay will be gone.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1612904039431409664

He's basically saying he's not coming back but isn't handing in his resignation until he has the i's dotted and t's crossed on a TV deal. Not a big fan of guys like Payton and McVay having a hand in running organizations into the ground by going for it only to bail on the team when it comes time to deal with the aftermath. As a player I would find it hard to believe in a coach that's going to pull the chute on everyone in the locker room when things go bad. Things will work out great for him though as he can bide his time the TV thing while floating his name out there annually for potential gigs much like Gruden did as over time people only remember the Super Bowl win and forget about the way things ended after. I think he's a good head coach but I think he's more Jon Gruden than Bill Belichick when it comes to Super Bowl winning coaches.

[KelVarnsen]

Hamlin discharged from the hospital in Buffalo.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ffalo-hospital

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He's basically saying he's not coming back but isn't handing in his resignation until he has the i's dotted and t's crossed on a TV deal. Not a big fan of guys like Payton and McVay having a hand in running organizations into the ground by going for it only to bail on the team when it comes time to deal with the aftermath. As a player I would find it hard to believe in a coach that's going to pull the chute on everyone in the locker room when things go bad. Things will work out great for him though as he can bide his time the TV thing while floating his name out there annually for potential gigs much like Gruden did as over time people only remember the Super Bowl win and forget about the way things ended after. I think he's a good head coach but I think he's more Jon Gruden than Bill Belichick when it comes to Super Bowl winning coaches.

The other similarity between Gruden and McVay is you could argue that both needed a lot of luck to win their Super Bowl. Gruden's Bucs took advantage of Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb choking the NFC championship away, and then lucking out when the Raiders had all that weirdness around them in the Super Bowl. Not to mention the Bucs basically defense being able to basically call out every play the Raiders offense ran because Bill Callahan was an idiot.

On the other side, if the Bucs don't blow their coverage on Kupp in the NFC championship game, McVay doesn't get a sniff at the Super Bowl last year.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

On the other side, if the Bucs don't blow their coverage on Kupp in the NFC championship game, McVay doesn't get a sniff at the Super Bowl last year.

Division game. Jimmy G threw an inexplicable interceptions in the NFC Title game when the 49'ers were driving to win. Plus K.C. choking at the end of both halfs and not being their opponent.

Every championship has some element of luck. I do think McVey is a good coach, but it does look like a guy running from a fight he can't win against Shanahan and Carroll the next couple years.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not a big fan of guys like Payton and McVay having a hand in running organizations into the ground by going for it only to bail on the team when it comes time to deal with the aftermath. As a player I would find it hard to believe in a coach that's going to pull the chute on

Agreed. I'll always love Payton, no way Saints have a ring without him. But I'm a little salty at him mortgaging the future so badly, then bailing before he even had the next QB in place. Cam Jordan still seems a little hurt, can tell it caught him off-guard and he feels lied to. He made another comment about it the other day at year end interviews.

I had no idea Payton had such a wandering eye, lots of stories coming out about how close he was to leaving several times since 2015, only to stay because Brees kept coming back. He comes from the Parcells coaching tree, sounds like he wants to do the Parcells/Sutter/Torts approach and just bounce around saving programs then jetting in 2-3 years when the locker room is sick of him.

[EldrickOnIce]

Aikman saw what most of us saw, mostly due to lack of talent at QB position, imo.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/202...night-football

Troy Aikman on Quality of Play This Season: ‘I Had to Ask Myself, Is This Professional Football?’

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Aikman saw what most of us saw, mostly due to lack of talent at QB position, imo.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/202...night-football

I have mentioned this before as to me it's pretty clear to me and others that the quality of football was down this season. There's not much that can be done in regards to the angle that teams don't practice like they used to because the NFL has to give into some player concessions and that's what the players want. I think some of this was to be expected with the retirement of some historically great quarterbacks over the last 5 years or so and in some ways it mirrors the CFL in that the quality of the games suffered after the retirement of guys like Ray, Reilly, Burris, and Bo's decline. Football is QB driven and it's a matter of cycles as there are some good QB's in the NFL but teams have got so desperate at the draft that there are too many 1st round reaches for QB's that aren't fully developed and teams are rushing them. Fields for example is likely not going to pan out because he's not been afforded an opportunity to refine his passing skills. Anthony Richardson for example is making the mistake of declaring a year early and make no mistake an NFL team will pick him in the 1st round and he's nowhere near ready to become an NFL QB. He's likely destined for 1st round QB bust status because of these circumstances but it wont stop a team from drafting him and fast tracking him into a starting position.

[GirlySports]

The only exception are the 49ers? Built a team that isn't QB driven?

[The Big Chill]

It’s seems crazy to me that there still isn’t a developmental league for the NFL. The jump from college to the NFL is just too big for most QBs, and having a league equivalent to the AHL or the G-league would really help develop some of them.

With the short seasons and massive fan base it seems like it should be viable. It would also keep a lot more players up to speed to fill in for the huge amount of injuries in the league.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The only exception are the 49ers? Built a team that isn't QB driven?

Much easier said than done and the Shanahan offensive scheme doesn't seem to travel well without him as the Jets just let Lafleur go. Also they really hit on their draft picks on the defensive side of the ball and that's not repeatable.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

It’s seems crazy to me that there still isn’t a developmental league for the NFL. The jump from college to the NFL is just too big for most QBs, and having a league equivalent to the AHL or the G-league would really help develop some of them.

With the short seasons and massive fan base it seems like it should be viable. It would also keep a lot more players up to speed to fill in for the huge amount of injuries in the league.

Is it bigger now than before? Or is it just teams not being patient? Are there more QB busts now than before?

Using Aikman above as an example, he was a first overall pick thrown into a Dallas team that went 1-15, and at one point lost 14 straight home games, and didn't even have their first overall pick the next year!

[The Big Chill]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Is it bigger now than before? Or is it just teams not being patient? Are there more QB busts now than before?

Using Aikman above as an example, he was a first overall pick thrown into a Dallas team that went 1-15, and at one point lost 14 straight home games, and didn't even have their first overall pick the next year!

It is difficult to develop in a situation like that. Aikman is one of the few who have managed it. A lot of players would benefit from a few seasons at a slightly lower level, especially guys who were not super high draft picks. A developmental league might not produce more top 10 QBs, but I think it would likely increase the overall level of the bottom half QBs.

[KelVarnsen]

McVay is staying as Rams HC
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ch-sources-say

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

McVay is staying as Rams HC
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ch-sources-say

I assume he received assurance that Donald will be back next season.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I assume he received assurance that Donald will be back next season.

More likely there is no desired TV spot available for him.

Maybe Herbstreit will be done after next season on Amazon and McVey goes there after he missed out on that gig last offseason.

[KelVarnsen]

Harbaugh staying at Michigan
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ys-return-2023