01-16-2023, 08:36 AM
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Wild re-sign Boldy. 7 years/49 M (7 M AAV)
89 career games and 68 career points. This is his 2nd year in the league. Has 29 points in 42 games this season after having 39 in 47 last year as a rookie.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/minnesota-wil...sion-1.1906776
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01-16-2023, 08:43 AM
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Franchise Player
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This sort of contract has worked for a few other teams, so the Wild hope this works out for them as well. Eventually some of these contracts will come and bite back. Total potential based contract. Boldy has not had a very productive sophomore season so far
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01-16-2023, 09:31 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
This sort of contract has worked for a few other teams, so the Wild hope this works out for them as well. Eventually some of these contracts will come and bite back. Total potential based contract. Boldy has not had a very productive sophomore season so far
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58 point pace for a sophomore slump isn't the worst.
I'd rather take this risk than have to pay him $8-9 if he blows up next year for 90 points.
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01-16-2023, 09:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
58 point pace for a sophomore slump isn't the worst.
I'd rather take this risk than have to pay him $8-9 if he blows up next year for 90 points.
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Not me. If he proves he's a 90 pt guy, I'll pay him like a 90 pt guy. But taking risk like this and losing, can really sink your cap flexibility.
I don't think it's prudent to take big risks, trying to be a hero with the cap. If you remain prudent, don't make big mistakes, and have a steady influx of ELC contracts, managing the cap shouldn't require large gambles.
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01-16-2023, 09:37 AM
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Boldy, Brody.
Brody, Boldy.
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01-16-2023, 09:51 AM
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Pent-up
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
This sort of contract has worked for a few other teams, so the Wild hope this works out for them as well. Eventually some of these contracts will come and bite back. Total potential based contract. Boldy has not had a very productive sophomore season so far
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It’s also much easier to trade and retain on a younger player than an expiring vet. I like this sort of gamble.
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01-16-2023, 09:58 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I think this is the way contracts are going to go, lock up the 20's and the traditional pay me for past performance, career ending deal will start to come down in value. Pay guys in their prime, not their declining years
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01-16-2023, 10:00 AM
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Location: YYC
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That's a bold move.
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01-16-2023, 10:07 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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He looked really good last year (can’t say I have seen a minute of Wild hockey this year). Worth the risk, I think.
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01-16-2023, 10:09 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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Even if he tops out as a 60 point guy, 7 million is hardly an overpay these days, especially with the cap increasing.
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01-16-2023, 10:24 AM
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always surprises me to read about guys i have never heard of getting deals like this - but maybe i am not listening enough
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01-16-2023, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Points aside, any time I happen to catch Wild games, he always seems to be really involved and a center point of the action.
It's risky signing a player with little track record to a long deal like this, but I guess they are betting on him.
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01-16-2023, 11:26 AM
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I believe many said the same thing when Thompson got signed to his deal.
Boldy is a very good player who likely will only get better. He's been scouted extensively by the Wild since well before he made his debut.
They are presumably confident he will not regress.
This is a decent gamble.
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01-16-2023, 11:33 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fire_starter
That's a bold move.
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Wild gettin' Boldy
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01-16-2023, 11:35 AM
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I like this risk rather than giving 30 year old players big deals. Both are risky but thats my opinion.
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01-16-2023, 12:10 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by memphusk
I like this risk rather than giving 30 year old players big deals. Both are risky but thats my opinion.
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The bigger difference is that teams can largely choose not to lock up young players to 6-8 year deals.
But you either sign (premium) older players to long deals or let them walk.
Now, you are not incorrect, but if you are going to shy away from long deals for older players, you need to be trading them before they reach UFA. Like what Florida did with Huberdeau and Weegar.
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01-16-2023, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by memphusk
I like this risk rather than giving 30 year old players big deals. Both are risky but thats my opinion.
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i would think that trying to trade a 20-something year old player who is overpaid might be more robust that trading for an overpaid 35 yr old
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01-16-2023, 02:31 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Not me. If he proves he's a 90 pt guy, I'll pay him like a 90 pt guy. But taking risk like this and losing, can really sink your cap flexibility.
I don't think it's prudent to take big risks, trying to be a hero with the cap. If you remain prudent, don't make big mistakes, and have a steady influx of ELC contracts, managing the cap shouldn't require large gambles.
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I'd say this is the most prudent move a good GM can make in today's NHL. Paying a guy like Boldy $7M in 3 years (if he's producing at a 90-100 point level) could easily be the difference in the team being able to pay another meaningful talent on the roster.
They've probably seen more than enough to hedge their bets that he's at worst turning out 65-70 point seasons, or something to that effect. It's always a risk/reward role as a GM, but as many fans know all to well, kicking the can down the road another 3 years often ends up costing the team and it's way better than investing that money in an overpriced veteran.
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01-16-2023, 03:39 PM
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Who?
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01-16-2023, 03:47 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northendzone
always surprises me to read about guys i have never heard of getting deals like this - but maybe i am not listening enough
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goriders
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Some people need to stay in more.
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