Avatar: The Way Of Water

[Ashasx]

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

To be honest it just surprizes me that everyone here that says they love the movie talks about how terrible the movie is in every aspect except the graphics, it seems to be that the only thing they like is the graphics, no one seems to like the story or the acting, it's just pretty to look at, that does seem well a bit shallow

I think acknowledging it's a spectacle movie, instead of a character study like TAR, is fine. I didn't love Ava2ar as much as many but I can't deny that Cameron can direct the hell out of an action sequence. It really puts many other contemporary action blockbusters to shame. Each action sequence is well constructed and has a really solid sense of geography. As opposed to something like the latest Jurassic movie which overly relies on editing and loses the sense of place/geography in the sequence.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I honestly don't get why people are so butthurt over this movie...on all my social media feeds its clickbait garbage about hating it and what a flop it is

Meanwhile one of the top grossing movies of all time

I stopped paying attention to other people's opinions of movies as a way to determine which movies I'll like. I'll listen to recommendations, if they sound interesting enough, to determine some movies to check out. I avoided the first Avatar like the plague, mostly from discussions I read on this site. Now, I'm actually thinking about checking it out so I can watch the 2nd movie.

Maybe you'll tell me something is crap, and it is/was, but maybe I'll still enjoy it. Too much herd mentality in determining what people like or don't like when it comes to movies.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I saw it in IMAX. I thought it was better than I remember the first one being. Still not a good movie, nothing I'd bother with on a home TV or even a normal theatre screen, but well worth doing in the theatre just for the visual experience of it.

[zukes]

Visually stunning, otherwise a pretty basic movie that runs too long. I enjoyed it, but outside of the visuals and effects it is just fine, or good, or whatever.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by zukes

Visually stunning, otherwise a pretty basic movie that runs too long. I enjoyed it, but outside of the visuals and effects it is just fine, or good, or whatever.

Cameron does this on purpose, its better for the international audience

[zukes]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Cameron does this on purpose, its better for the international audience

That's cool. Like I said, I enjoyed it.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Cameron does this on purpose, its better for the international audience

I mean, that's kind of every blockbuster. Cameron said he wants something that can be followed by 8-80 year olds. It makes sense if you are wanting to make several billion in theatres

[Firebot]

This just in, blockbuster movie that focuses on visuals and world building and appeals to masses does not titillate the cranium. News at 11.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Cameron could be doing better things if we're completely honest

the tech is cool and all but it is wasted on painfully mediocre scripts and story

should've left it at one visually groundbreaking film

he's going to eat up 20+ years just on editing a dazzling saga of "meh"

I'm not a titanic fan per se, but I can respect what he accomplished with films like that one. it is a genuine classic. I don't know if that word will ever be associated with this series

it will be remembered for its box office numbers, not much else

if you're going to pump out several 3+ hour movies, you've got to give them a truly epic story to earn the runtime, like LOTR

not enough meat on its mammoth sized bones

[Strange Brew]

Titanic and Avatar aren't very different IMO. Both are very enjoyable movies, beautiful to look at and great theatre experiences. But neither are examples of sophisticated story telling and character development. That's not really his thing.

[zamler]

Movie is running out of box office steam.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Cameron could be doing better things if we're completely honest

the tech is cool and all but it is wasted on painfully mediocre scripts and story

should've left it at one visually groundbreaking film

he's going to eat up 20+ years just on editing a dazzling saga of "meh"

I'm not a titanic fan per se, but I can respect what he accomplished with films like that one. it is a genuine classic. I don't know if that word will ever be associated with this series

it will be remembered for its box office numbers, not much else

if you're going to pump out several 3+ hour movies, you've got to give them a truly epic story to earn the runtime, like LOTR

not enough meat on its mammoth sized bones

The thing I find most ironic is the cheapest easiest part of making any film is writing the story, even the best script and story writers get paid a pittance and the script/story is the only part of a film you can actually perfect before shooting for almost no cost, any big budget movie could easily afford to have 3 or 4 writing teams try out different plots for less than the cost of craft services

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Hey man, do you want me to PM you some crisis hotline resources? Because James Cameron seems to have you triggered.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Hey man, do you want me to PM you some crisis hotline resources? Because James Cameron seems to have you triggered.

No I'm fine, I watched 'In the Heat of the Night' with Rod Steiger and Sidney Poitier on Tubi last night (free, yay!!!) from that other great Canadian director Norman Jewison, the visuals weren't great, the 3D aspects were frankly laughable and the world it took you too was a bit depressing frankly, no one could fly and it was full of racist americans (so a bit like Avatar I guess) but it was still a great movie that I have watched maybe 20 times in my life and never gets tired or seems predictable even though I can damn near quote the lines myself, I shall watch 12 Angry Men tonight, whole film takes place in one room and it's not even in colour!!!! clearly it will be rubbish without talking whales (do the whales talk? I feel they should for some reason)

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

No I'm fine, I watched 'In the Heat of the Night' with Rod Steiger and Sidney Poitier on Tubi last night (free, yay!!!) from that other great Canadian director Norman Jewison, the visuals weren't great, the 3D aspects were frankly laughable and the world it took you too was a bit depressing frankly, no one could fly and it was full of racist americans (so a bit like Avatar I guess) but it was still a great movie that I have watched maybe 20 times in my life and never gets tired or seems predictable even though I can damn near quote the lines myself, I shall watch 12 Angry Men tonight, whole film takes place in one room and it's not even in colour!!!! clearly it will be rubbish without talking whales (do the whales talk? I feel they should for some reason)

The 'hoity-toity elitist snobbier-than-thou' movies thread is this way, sir:

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=169871

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Yeah if you’re gonna be ranting and raving like a lunatic, maybe just piss off and post somewhere elsewhere then? And seek help. Do both is probably best.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

No I'm fine, I watched 'In the Heat of the Night' with Rod Steiger and Sidney Poitier on Tubi last night (free, yay!!!) from that other great Canadian director Norman Jewison, the visuals weren't great, the 3D aspects were frankly laughable and the world it took you too was a bit depressing frankly, no one could fly and it was full of racist americans (so a bit like Avatar I guess) but it was still a great movie that I have watched maybe 20 times in my life and never gets tired or seems predictable even though I can damn near quote the lines myself, I shall watch 12 Angry Men tonight, whole film takes place in one room and it's not even in colour!!!! clearly it will be rubbish without talking whales (do the whales talk? I feel they should for some reason)

Let it go. Or maybe obsess on it somewhere else, you’re just repeating yourself endlessly in here.

[afc wimbledon]

It was my attempt at humour but you all seem really really sensative about this, it seems anything less than full worship at the alter of CGI effects is blasphamous, perhaps someone should change the thread title to Avatar 2, Only Fans

[Yeah_Baby]

LMAO. I love the Amercian New Wave with all my heart and soul and I think it's really the zenith of the 120ish years of Cinema. But JFC dude, this movie is like AIRPORT (1970). It's spectacle. It's not FIVE EASY PIECES, which came out the same year. I prefer one to the other but I'm not going to hang out in the AIRPORT thread as much as you have repeating yourself over and over again.