2022 NFL Season Thread

[Weitz]

Pulling hard for the raiders tomorrow.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

This continues to use the rather absurd assumption that the Bills were guaranteed to beat the Bengals. At the time the game was stopped every WP% model had the Bengals as 60% favorites, which would rise to 70% if they scored a TD on the drive they were on, which seemed like a good bet with how easy they were moving the ball. Long way to go in the game and all that, but the Bengals are arguably the best team in the AFC right now. The Bills were not playing an automatic W here, it would have been a tough win for them.

The Bills are the winners in all of this, without question. They get the second hardest game of their season voided to a neutral result, avoid going on the road in the division round to Cincinnati, and if they play the Chiefs at a "neutral site" in the AFC Championship, it will probably be in Detroit, with 80% Bills fans. At the time the MNF game was stopped the Chiefs were favorites to have homefield, now they don't. They don't lose as badly as the Bengals here, but they aren't some big time winner out of this.

These are not assumptions, they are facts.
Including all scheduled games not yet played, one team had control of their own destiny (for 1st seed in the AFC). The NFL (while citing minimizing 'competitive inequaties') gave that control to a different team. A team that had already lost to both other potential challengers for 1st seed. These are the facts. That you spin this at KC losing something is what is actually adsurd.

The league seems to acknowledge KC doesn't really deserve this advantage by not granting them everything that a team that earns 1st seed is entitled to. This is an assumption. I trust you note the difference

[Senator Clay Davis]

The Bills did have control, but they were playing a team who is arguably better than them, on the road. To assume they absolutely win is fairly laughable, and given the start to the game they were more likely to lose that game then win if it was played to conclusion. That the Chiefs lost to both is not particularly relevant when, had the Bills lost, both those teams would have had one more loss than the Chiefs. Seeding is not determined by who beat who unless they are tied, which they would not have been. All three teams ended up losing homefield opportunities, so they all get hosed to varying degrees.

But when you look at the current situation, the Bills worst case with a win Sunday is #2 seed, home game in round two against the team who could have beaten them and forced them into a road game in that round, and neutral site game that will primarily be made up their fans. All things considered they absolutely came out the best from this, the Chiefs second, and the Bengals easily got the short end here.

[KelVarnsen]

I want chaos this weekend but only if the Eagles win.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Chiefs, Bills, Bengals all tie.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The Bills did have control, but they were playing a team who is arguably better than them, on the road. To assume they absolutely win is fairly laughable, and given the start to the game they were more likely to lose that game then win if it was played to conclusion. That the Chiefs lost to both is not particularly relevant when, had the Bills lost, both those teams would have had one more loss than the Chiefs. Seeding is not determined by who beat who unless they are tied, which they would not have been. All three teams ended up losing homefield opportunities, so they all get hosed to varying degrees.

But when you look at the current situation, the Bills worst case with a win Sunday is #2 seed, home game in round two against the team who could have beaten them and forced them into a road game in that round, and neutral site game that will primarily be made up their fans. All things considered they absolutely came out the best from this, the Chiefs second, and the Bengals easily got the short end here.

And even if KC loses Sat, they are still guaranteed 2nd seed and home playoff against CIN (if applicable) where they otherwise could have (and by your logic would have) been 3rd and on road.

The one thing we can all agree on is the Bengals definitely got the short straw here.

[Senator Clay Davis]

No doubt the Bengals get screwed the worst here. Which is why I'm kinda laughing at the notion that the Raiders winning is good because "Screw the Chiefs". Yeah, sure, I get that, but you know who'd be screwed even worse if the Chiefs lose? The Bengals. Instead of beating the Bills, having the Chiefs lose and getting a shot at the #1 seed and a bye, now a Chiefs loss means the Bengals are still #3, have no bye, and instead of getting the easier divisional round game and homefield, get to possibly go on the road twice, to Kansas City and Buffalo.

Moral of the story, as it seems to be in the modern world? No good deed goes unpunished. It's why I can see more people rallying behind the Bengals after all of this more than the Bills. They did the right thing and got hosed.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

No doubt the Bengals get screwed the worst here. Which is why I'm kinda laughing at the notion that the Raiders winning is good because "Screw the Chiefs". Yeah, sure, I get that, but you know who'd be screwed even worse if the Chiefs lose? The Bengals. Instead of beating the Bills, having the Chiefs lose and getting a shot at the #1 seed and a bye, now a Chiefs loss means the Bengals are still #3, have no bye, and instead of getting the easier divisional round game and homefield, get to possibly go on the road twice, to Kansas City and Buffalo.

Moral of the story, as it seems to be in the modern world? No good deed goes unpunished. It's why I can see more people rallying behind the Bengals after all of this more than the Bills. They did the right thing and got hosed.

of course the NFL did helpfully designate the Bengals as division champs though, and confirmed Bengals get a first place schedule next year and a lower draft pick and that will be the case even if their playoff game is in Baltimore. Even for the NFL, that's evil.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Yeah the Bengals were the sacrificial lamb in the name of "fairness" in all of this. It's also ridiculous that if all three teams win this weekend there's not a coin flip for homefield in that second round matchup between Buffalo and Cincy. Should have gone with void the game and determine the winner by coinflip, or Madden simulation, or rock, paper, scissors either of those would have been better than this.

[Nadal Fan]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1610424228037251078

[Paulie Walnuts]

So 5 big games and 5 underwhelmed games that's not really owning a team lol.

[Sainters7]

Michael Thomas agrees to a contract restructuring that should effectively see him released this offseason prior to June 1st. Originally he had 2 years left on his deal.

Curious to see where he ends up, pretty tragic story with him this entire decade so far, immediately after breaking the most receptions in a season record in 2019. He clearly still has the hands and strength as seen in his 3 games this year, where he had 3 TDs, including 2 in his first game in 3 years.

Hope he can finally get healthy, he was on pace to be a HOFer until getting injured Week 1 in 2020, then came back too early to be with Brees for his final playoff run. That's where this nagging injury started.

[GirlySports]

Always get a kick when you hear Vegas fans yell “Knight” in the Star Spangled Banner at Allegiant. Wonder if non-NHL fans get confused by that.

[ResAlien]

Dan Orlovsky has to be the worst colour guy in sports

[devo22]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1611850961391357953

[KelVarnsen]

I don’t think the Raiders are going to win this game

[ResAlien]

Ouch the disrespect

https://twitter.com/user/status/1611854927986413569

[devo22]

^ I want to hate this badly ... but I just can't.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Andy is like a drug addict inside the 10 yard line when it comes to running unnecessary/disrespectful plays. Can't help himself.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Mahomes MVP in the bag.