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View Poll Results: Who Makes Flames Mount Rushmore (1 face at a time)?
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Backlund
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2 |
0.62% |
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Fleury
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17 |
5.30% |
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Gaudreau
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2 |
0.62% |
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Gilmour
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0% |
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Giordano
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2 |
0.62% |
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Hunter
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0% |
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Kiprusoff
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32 |
9.97% |
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Loob
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2 |
0.62% |
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MacInnis
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18 |
5.61% |
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McDonald
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235 |
73.21% |
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Monahan
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0% |
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Mullen
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0% |
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Nieuwendyk
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1 |
0.31% |
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Nilsson
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0 |
0% |
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Otto
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0 |
0% |
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Peplinkski
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0 |
0% |
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Regehr
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0 |
0% |
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Roberts
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0 |
0% |
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Suter
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0 |
0% |
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Vernon
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3 |
0.93% |
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Bearcat Murray
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0% |
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Bob Johnson
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1 |
0.31% |
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Cliff Fletcher
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2 |
0.62% |
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Terry Crisp
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0 |
0% |
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Darryl Sutter
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1 |
0.31% |
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Peter Maher
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1 |
0.31% |
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Ed Whalen
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2 |
0.62% |
01-04-2023, 09:10 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Exactly what did Kipper accomplish on ice that would put him ahead of Fleury?
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Didn't throw the team under the bus when he left?
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01-04-2023, 09:13 AM
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#22
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Exactly what did Kipper accomplish on ice that would put him ahead of Fleury?
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They rode him to the finals. That team was not that good, other than Kipper and Iggy.
Fleury was a great player, but when the Flames won, it was more on the incredible depth of talent. When Fleury was on his own, the Flames stunk.
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01-04-2023, 09:13 AM
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#23
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Exactly what did Kipper accomplish on ice that would put him ahead of Fleury?
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Won a Vezina 
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01-04-2023, 09:32 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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It would be cool to know the top selling Flame jerseys of all time, as that is one measurement of players who attract the interest of the casual fan. If I had to guess the top four are Iginla, Gaudreau, Fleury and McDonald. Lanny probably at a disadvantage here as it seems wearing sports jerseys is more commonplace than when he played.
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01-04-2023, 09:36 AM
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#25
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Uncle Chester
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I think Fleury loses his spot to a builder. I'm putting Cliff Fletcher up there on mine.
Lanny, Jarome, Cliff and...
Man, I really want to put Peplinski in there for some reason.
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01-04-2023, 09:37 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Imagine voting for someone other than Iggy or Lanny in the first two rounds.
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01-04-2023, 09:44 AM
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#28
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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This one should be Theo, but based on his off the ice crap, he may not make it anymore.
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01-04-2023, 09:45 AM
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#29
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Fleury or McDonald. These two are locks imo. Not having Fleury there would be utterly ridiculous just because he has alternative views on things politically. He is still possibly the most talented player to play for this franchise and there is a reason no player has ever chosen #14. The Mt Rushmore should be the players that most impacted the team, results on ice, and being an icon related to the team.
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Crazy people aren’t allowed on the mountain, regardless of on ice achievements.
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01-04-2023, 09:48 AM
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#30
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Lifetime Suspension
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Being a professional athlete is a privilege, and acting as a professional on and off the ice is part of the entire package.
Most workplaces which pay you a minimum wage monitor your activity away from work, its one of the first things you get told. You start posting the garbage he does and harassing people online and going on Fox news and telling the world you are the face of a illegal occupation with people wanting to hang the PM of the country you will be tossed from that job.
Having that vile human being represent our organization in any form is disgusting, I don't care how many cups you won for us.
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01-04-2023, 09:51 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Yeah that wasn't the section that needed it!
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In your opinion, I assume?
Anytime anyone posts something, IMO, I think we can assume it's "in their opinion".
IMO, I don't think we need "opinion police" stalking every post.
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01-04-2023, 09:55 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Being a professional athlete is a privilege, and acting as a professional on and off the ice is part of the entire package.
Most workplaces which pay you a minimum wage monitor your activity away from work, its one of the first things you get told. You start posting the garbage he does and harassing people online and going on Fox news and telling the world you are the face of a illegal occupation with people wanting to hang the PM of the country you will be tossed from that job.
Having that vile human being represent our organization in any form is disgusting, I don't care how many cups you won for us.
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Firstly, no one won cup"s" for the Flames.
Secondly, don't be surprised if Fleury's past history of sexual abuse at the hands of Graham James has affected him to this day.
I am willing to overlook his behaviour since he quit hockey and base my opinion on his hockey playing ability.
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01-04-2023, 09:59 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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IMO these first two were no-brainers. #3 is where intrigue begins.
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01-04-2023, 10:14 AM
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#34
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Lethbridge
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The problem with this poll is that I’m not sure how many people here actually saw the ‘86 - ‘89 players.
Iginla
McDonald
MacInnis
Vernon
That’s my four but as I’m typing this I’m thinking about how good Theo, Kipper, Nieuwendyk, Roberts, Gilmour, Mullen, Nilsson, Gio all were as Calgary Flames. Tough choice for sure. I’m also not putting any coaches mugs up there either.
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01-04-2023, 10:16 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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If its players only, Fleury has to be there in the 3 or 4 spot. He was an incredible player for the franchise. He also obviously overcame a lot to become an elite NHLer. There's a lot of merit in that. You can think he's an idiot, I tend to think he's an idiot, but it doesn't erase his contribution to the franchise. It's a shame that people can't put his twitter nonsense aside and give him credit for what he did achieve for the Flames. If this Flames mount Rushmore was for most illuminated human beings, then yeah, he should be nowhere near it. But for hockey performance, you can't ignore what Fleury did.
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A few weeks after crashing head-first into the boards (denting his helmet and being unable to move for a little while) following a hit from behind by Bob Errey, the Calgary Flames player explains:
"I was like Christ, lying on my back, with my arms outstretched, crucified"
-- Frank Musil - Early January 1994
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01-04-2023, 10:22 AM
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#36
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Igottago
If its players only, Fleury has to be there in the 3 or 4 spot. He was an incredible player for the franchise. He also obviously overcame a lot to become an elite NHLer. There's a lot of merit in that. You can think he's an idiot, I tend to think he's an idiot, but it doesn't erase his contribution to the franchise. It's a shame that people can't put his twitter nonsense aside and give him credit for what he did achieve for the Flames. If this Flames mount Rushmore was for most illuminated human beings, then yeah, he should be nowhere near it. But for hockey performance, you can't ignore what Fleury did.
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It is not Twitter nonsense. He is openly supporting terrorists in our own country. He is spewing dangerous lies. He has trashed the organization many times.
His on ice contributions are debatable as well. He put up a bunch of points on a non playoff teams. So what was his contribution to the organization on and off the ice?
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01-04-2023, 10:27 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by AndyM
Won a Vezina |
Fleury won a Cup.
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01-04-2023, 10:29 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
It is not Twitter nonsense. He is openly supporting terrorists in our own country. He is spewing dangerous lies. He has trashed the organization many times.
His on ice contributions are debatable as well. He put up a bunch of points on a non playoff teams. So what was his contribution to the organization on and off the ice?
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Second highest points producer in franchise history is just a "bunch of points"? You clearly have no interest in speaking honestly about his hockey accomplishments.
Iginla only made it past the first round once as a Flame, and has no cup, does that diminish his hockey achievements?
You can set whatever benchmark you want for this but you just aren't speaking in realistic terms if you're trying to downplay how good Fleury was as a hockey player.
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A few weeks after crashing head-first into the boards (denting his helmet and being unable to move for a little while) following a hit from behind by Bob Errey, the Calgary Flames player explains:
"I was like Christ, lying on my back, with my arms outstretched, crucified"
-- Frank Musil - Early January 1994
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01-04-2023, 10:29 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
They rode him to the finals. That team was not that good, other than Kipper and Iggy.
Fleury was a great player, but when the Flames won, it was more on the incredible depth of talent. When Fleury was on his own, the Flames stunk.
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That is because the team stunk. If Kipper had been in net for those years the team was bad we wouldn't even be discussing him right now.
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01-04-2023, 10:32 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
It is not Twitter nonsense. He is openly supporting terrorists in our own country. He is spewing dangerous lies. He has trashed the organization many times.
His on ice contributions are debatable as well. He put up a bunch of points on a non playoff teams. So what was his contribution to the organization on and off the ice?
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Show me where he trashed the organization many times? You are full of ####. His contributions off the ice is helping thousands of abuse survivors get through their struggles. Please tell me what Kipper's contributions off the ice are?
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