[PGT] Jets 3 Flames 2

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Pretty thrilled that Sutter has managed to take the gas out of his best forward. Ruzicka was pretty invisible tonight. Having him playing like that will go a long way towards securing Bedard.

Oofffff.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Markstrom had a .880 SV%
Hellebuyck had a .943 SV%

Hellebuyck made 11 more saves than Markstrom.

I actually don't think Markstrom was that bad. But when you are paid $6 million, you have to play better than the other goalie consistently. Not just occasionally.

Cherry pick whatever you want. You're just here to stir #### anyway.

[Enoch Root]

blaming Markstrom tonight is just ridiculous - 2 tip ins and a snipe from the slot

if Weegar raises that puck, or Kadri's post is a quarter inch closer (or any number of other chances go in), the Flames are the first team to 3 and win the game

[EN FUEGO]

I'm usually upset after just about any loss, but that was a solid effort. They'll learn from it, move on, get the next one. Mangiapane looked possessed tonight, Huberdeau is starting to make some really creative plays and is looking stronger on the puck.

It's hard to understand how one could get all Chicken Little at this point in the progression of the team. Frustrating elements? Sure, but they look like a team that's about to get rolling IMO.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Pretty thrilled that Sutter has managed to take the gas out of his best forward. Ruzicka was pretty invisible tonight. Having him playing like that will go a long way towards securing Bedard.

Lol if you actually think the Flames have a shot at Bedard then you should just stop watching the rest of the season and skip the pain

[bax]

Originally Posted by zamler

Markstrom is slow moving side to side on the winning goal I'd like to see him set, gives a chance to make the save.

This is baseless criticism.

That goal had nothing to do with lateral movement. It was a great tip.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I will hang my hat on statistical evidence on this one.

statistical evidence is only evidence with a large enough sample size

you have no case here

[flamingred89]

Games like that are frustrating as hell but don’t sting like they did earlier in the season. It’s been a solid month of the Flames dominating with solid goaltending. Eventually the luck will even out. Hopefully it’s at the right time.

[DropIt]

Blaming Markstrom once again for an underwhelming, weak set of players in front of him

[dino7c]

High danger chances were 7-4 Jets

Goalies were pretty equal, no major discrepancy

Zadorov goal was the weakest of the night

It was a good game, somebody has to lose...####in way she goes

[Infinit47]

What's tough is it's very hard to not feel the ref's are screwing the Flames this year. The two incredibly soft penalties called in OT earlier in the year, this weak call with under three minutes left.

The Oilers game where the Flames were dominating the Oilers and somehiow the Oilers had a 3-1 pp advantage.

Flames are 5th place in 5v5 XGF% and the second most penalized team in the NHL. Currently have a -20 powerplay differential.

It's hard to ignore all of these things put together. Something is wrong.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by bax

This is baseless criticism.

That goal had nothing to do with lateral movement. It was a great tip.

No kidding the goalie was set for the shot...the dman is supposed to tie up a stick

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

High danger chances were 7-4 Jets

Goalies were pretty equal, no major discrepancy

Zadorov goal was the weakest of the night

It was a good game, somebody has to lose...####in way she goes

These stats are not making sense. I thought we looked more dangerous 5v5 do the missed open nets Weegar and Kadri misses not count as HDC?

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

blaming Markstrom tonight is just ridiculous - 2 tip ins and a snipe from the slot

if Weegar raises that puck, or Kadri's post is a quarter inch closer (or any number of other chances go in), the Flames are the first team to 3 and win the game

Saying your goalie is consistently the second best on the night whilst also underperforming their contract isn't quite the same as "blaming" them.

I'm not saying he's always bad, or was bad tonight. I'm saying he doesn't do his job to the level that his contract implies, relative to most (all?) other players in the league at his position.

[Burning Beard]

Some posters really don't handle losses well. Close game but they seemed to have the bounces. Not sure what there is to be upset about.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by dino7c

High danger chances were 7-4 Jets

Goalies were pretty equal, no major discrepancy

Zadorov goal was the weakest of the night

It was a good game, somebody has to lose...####in way she goes

Natural stat trick has high danger chances at 7-7 with the Flames having a 32-20 advantage in overall scoring chances.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

blaming Markstrom tonight is just ridiculous - 2 tip ins and a snipe from the slot

if Weegar raises that puck, or Kadri's post is a quarter inch closer (or any number of other chances go in), the Flames are the first team to 3 and win the game

I have to admit, I actually thought people that watched the game would give Markstrom some slack tonight after playing so solid.

Guess not. I would have thought the continued lack of success on the PP would take more heat, or lack of offense from certain players. Some people really just love putting the blame on the goalie, regardless how he plays. It's kinda weird.

[Patek23]

Im not going to blame this game on Markstrom. But its tough to deny that the team scores far less in front of him than they do playing in front of Vladar for whatever reason. And that includes two of our highest scoring games which actually were in front of Markstrom.

By my napkin math counting up GF and GA per game each goalie started:

Markstrom:

GF AVG: 2.88
GA AVG: 2.74


Vladar
GF AVG: 3.38
GA AVG: 2.76

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Saying your goalie is consistently the second best on the night whilst also underperforming their contract isn't quite the same as "blaming" them.

I'm not saying he's always bad, or was bad tonight. I'm saying he doesn't do his job to the level that his contract implies, relative to most (all?) other players in the league at his position.

Blaming Markstrom tonight is absolutely bizarre. He's been great for awhile now.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

What's tough is it's very hard to not feel the ref's are screwing the Flames this year. The two incredibly soft penalties called in OT earlier in the year, this weak call with under three minutes left.

The Oilers game where the Flames were dominating the Oilers and somehiow the Oilers had a 3-1 pp advantage.

Flames are 5th place in 5v5 XGF% and the second most penalized team in the NHL. Currently have a -20 powerplay differential.

It's hard to ignore all of these things put together. Something is wrong.

I knew it wasn't going to be fairly called game when I saw Garrett Rank was one of the refs. The guy lives up to his name.