[Game Takes] Flames 3 Canucks 2

[Bingo]

Flames 3 Canucks 2

- Flames score three but let Vancouver back into it
- Blake Coleman has himself a night
- Flames PK blanks Vancouver four times and scores a shortie

Happy New Year's CP!

[SebC]

It's a 3.28-1.69 league.

[Enoch Root]

"but let Vancouver back into it"...

I don't agree with that statement - the Nucks were very fortunate on their goals, and the Flames continued to press throughout the 3rd and were very unfortunate not to blow it open.

Also, he lack of calls on the Canucks on those two semi-breakaways in the 3rd - presumably because they were trailing - was atrocious

Sure, it ended 3-2, but that flatters the Nucks, and the Flames were full marks for the W

[Flamesfan05]

The Flames were clearly the better team

The lack of scoring touch is a concern though. This game should not have been close, it’s only because the Flames can’t finish. Every ####ing goalie is an all star against them. For god sake, even Grubauer who is toasted.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The Flames were clearly the better team

The lack of scoring touch is a concern though. This game should not have been close, it’s only because the Flames can’t finish. Every ####ing goalie is an all star against them. For god sake, even Grubauer who is toasted.

There was no lack of finish on Coleman's chance, you just have to give Grubauer credit. And yet another post on what should have been a goal.

And there was a clear stick to the hands on Coleman's(?) semi-breakaway, which was just one of a few infractions that should have resulted in some PPs.

There have been times this year when lack of finish was a problem, but last night wasn't one of them and I think they are coming out of that funk too.

[GS Skier]

Didn't want to start a new thread however looking at Capfriendly and I see Kjillinton on IR and the Flames with 2.6 million in open cap space today. Did that happen earlier?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

There was no lack of finish on Coleman's chance, you just have to give Grubauer credit. And yet another post on what should have been a goal.

And there was a clear stick to the hands on Coleman's(?) semi-breakaway, which was just one of a few infractions that should have resulted in some PPs.

There have been times this year when lack of finish was a problem, but last night wasn't one of them and I think they are coming out of that funk too.

I was speaking in general not last night only

Yeah, hopefully they come out of it or it even out

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

"but let Vancouver back into it"...

I don't agree with that statement - the Nucks were very fortunate on their goals, and the Flames continued to press throughout the 3rd and were very unfortunate not to blow it open.

Also, he lack of calls on the Canucks on those two semi-breakaways in the 3rd - presumably because they were trailing - was atrocious

Sure, it ended 3-2, but that flatters the Nucks, and the Flames were full marks for the W

Yeah I mentioned both in the game story (pushing in the third, and the missed calls).

Really good sign that they didn't get rattled.

I thought both Vancouver goals were very fortunate.

Given what we've seen called nightly, it's shocking neither of those Coleman calls were made.

[Strange Brew]

Didn’t see much of the game except for last 15 minutes. Maybe I had a few too many spirits but I thought Fames looked extremely spirited in preserving that lead. Urgency, desperation, timely saves.

It was just Vancouver but I liked that. Can’t wait to see that same type of game against some good teams, as you sense they are building confidence.

[SaskyFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by GS Skier

Didn't want to start a new thread however looking at Capfriendly and I see Kjillinton on IR and the Flames with 2.6 million in open cap space today. Did that happen earlier?

I think he has been on IR all year. You don’t get relief until he is on LTIR. The 2+ mil is an accumulation of their daily cap space. Come the deadline they could have as much space to add approx 6 mil of cap hits

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by GS Skier

Didn't want to start a new thread however looking at Capfriendly and I see Kjillinton on IR and the Flames with 2.6 million in open cap space today. Did that happen earlier?

He's been on IR (not LTIR) all year. That cap-space you see is just the cap-space we have with Kylington counting against the cap.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

There was no lack of finish on Coleman's chance, you just have to give Grubauer credit. And yet another post on what should have been a goal.

And there was a clear stick to the hands on Coleman's(?) semi-breakaway, which was just one of a few infractions that should have resulted in some PPs.

There have been times this year when lack of finish was a problem, but last night wasn't one of them and I think they are coming out of that funk too.

Flames are starting to generate better chances.

Still lagging a touch in HD (15th), but have their expected goals / 60 up to 7th overall now. You don't do that with shots from the red line.

Top 5 in expected goal splits, top 10 in scoring chance splits ... starting to come together.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Flames are starting to generate better chances.

Still lagging a touch in HD (15th), but have their expected goals / 60 up to 7th overall now. You don't do that with shots from the red line.

Top 5 in expected goal splits, top 10 in scoring chance splits ... starting to come together.

You do a good job with providing a deeper dive into the game. Do the HDC include slot chances? Or it's that a separate breakdown?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You do a good job with providing a deeper dive into the game. Do the HDC include slot chances? Or it's that a separate breakdown?

Both Scoring Chances (ranked 10th) and High Danger Chances (15th) are home plate shots.

The difference between the two is what happens before the shot.

If there is a pass, rebound or deflection it moves to high danger (goalie has to move). If there isn't it's just a shot from that area.

So teams with high scoring chance totals have shot volume from dangerous areas, but lack the skill? to make it high danger as often as other teams.

I think that describes the Flames pretty well.

The best teams in all situations generate 14 high danger chances per game, the worst 9 ... so it's not a huge chasm. The Flames are at 12 ... so we're talking about 2 per game vs the elite.

Digging a little deeper, the Flames had a great start to the season averaging 13.1 per game in October, hit a wall in November, but bounced back to 13.1 for December.

Same with scoring chances per game ... 32.4 in Oct, 27 in Nov, 32.0 in December.

They seem to be back on track.

[Bingo]

Also interesting ...

21/22 Flames all situations ... 12.3 HD60
22/23 Flames all situations ... 12.0 HD60

Generating about the same, not finishing to the same degree ... kind of natural with losing your two best players.

But any notion that Sutter is coaching differently this season is evaporating as the team gets on the same page.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Nice breakdown thanks. Makes me optimistic for the rest of the season. They will be a pain in the ass for opposition, and likely end up on the right side of the score more often than not. Markstrom looking comfortable in net is a massive plus.

[D as in David]

In my eyes, the Flames have been playing noticably better starting with the game against the Blues.

[Strange Brew]

This Flames team is really going to have to play a full 60 minutes to get results. They just don’t have the skill IMO to turn it on and off.

Pretty sure that’s what this coach preaches. I wouldn’t expect a bunch of comfortable wins and you’re going to have games like the last one against the Oilers where you deserve better. But there is definitely enough talent on the team that if they commit to attention to detail in their own zone, they can win. I don’t think guys like Huberdeau and Weegar have been asked to play like that before.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by D as in David

In my eyes, the Flames have been playing noticably better starting with the game against the Blues.

That game was rock bottom