The ongoing X and Elon Musk Transgressions Thread

[RedHot25]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1606058459568279552

[Fuzz]

^ That thread is crazy, it sounds like he is spiraling.

[kermitology]

I'm sure that firing so many people who understood and ran Twitter was a fantastic idea. He doesn't understand what Twitter actually is. But if you were a Tesla shareholder, you should be seriously questioning his acumen.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

We are just keeping the thread warm until Musk does something else dumb with Twitter. Any minute now.

The great thing about Space Karen is you won't have to wait long

https://kotaku.com/elon-musk-twitter...uit-1849923347

A Netflix engineer pressed Musk to provide specific details about Twitter’s coding on Tuesday night, prompting Musk to eventually lash out with ad hominem attacks.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1605442608603463680

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

^ That thread is crazy, it sounds like he is spiraling.

That thread is wild, even by musk standards.

He was already a 10/10 piece of #### raging lunatic 8 weeks ago. He’s since ratcheted up the crazy every week. We have to keep expanding the crazy scale or he’d be at like a 22/10 on the nuts-o-meter right now.

[Kasi]

He’s already gone from 300 to below 200 billion. How long til he drops below 100?

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by Kasi

He’s already gone from 300 to below 200 billion. How long til he drops below 100?

Let's get that to zero; transphobic Elizabeth Holmes needs to go all the way down

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

The great thing about Space Karen is you won't have to wait long

https://kotaku.com/elon-musk-twitter...uit-1849923347

https://twitter.com/user/status/1605442608603463680

Yeah, that was funny..

“we just need to, uh, rewrite the stacks”
“why?”
“uhhhh.. cause the servers…”
“hahaha what?”
“shut up”

[Fuzz]

I'm no brilliant software engineer like Elon, but lets pretend I did want to make Twitter into the "everything" app with all these other features, like payments, ordering etc. I'd leave Twitter the #### alone, and build above it. Twitter being one piece, so rather than adding to a complicated thing, you just leave it, and build above and around it. Throwing it out sounds foolhardy.

[JohnnyB]

People are obviously having fun getting their digs in, but that guy on the space was a jackass who clearly wasn't engaged in a good faith discussion.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

People are obviously having fun getting their digs in, but that guy on the space was a jackass who clearly wasn't engaged in a good faith discussion.

No offense but the suggestion that in order to turn Twitter into what he wants it to be it needs a total rewrite is as absurd a notion as suggesting the earth is flat, he spent 44 billion on.....the stack, that is what Twitter is, its a program, no more, to suggest the stack needs to be completely rewritten is Musk admitting that he has wasted all 44 billion, of course the reaction was one of stupefaction and incredulousness, it is akin to Musk announcing he intends to by Microsoft and then turn it into an washing machine manufacturer, its an absurd suggestion

[GGG]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

No offense but the suggestion that in order to turn Twitter into what he wants it to be it needs a total rewrite is as absurd a notion as suggesting the earth is flat, he spent 44 billion on.....the stack, that is what Twitter is, its a program, no more, to suggest the stack needs to be completely rewritten is Musk admitting that he has wasted all 44 billion, of course the reaction was one of stupefaction and incredulousness, it is akin to Musk announcing he intends to by Microsoft and then turn it into an washing machine manufacturer, its an absurd suggestion

The code has minimal value, the users are the product being sold on every platform.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

No offense but the suggestion that in order to turn Twitter into what he wants it to be it needs a total rewrite is as absurd a notion as suggesting the earth is flat, he spent 44 billion on.....the stack, that is what Twitter is, its a program, no more, to suggest the stack needs to be completely rewritten is Musk admitting that he has wasted all 44 billion, of course the reaction was one of stupefaction and incredulousness, it is akin to Musk announcing he intends to by Microsoft and then turn it into an washing machine manufacturer, its an absurd suggestion

Yeah, that's obviously not right.

Anyways, regardless of what Musk was saying and whether or not Musk is wrong, the guy was actually communicating like a jackass. He was purposefully communicating in a rude way in an effort to mock him. He was being a troll.

[photon]

The stack could have some value as there was effort and expertise putting it together, and Twitter is big enough that's it's not a plug and play system, but still yeah it's going to be a small fraction of the value. The expertise and relationships would have been some of the value but he's burned all that already lol.

As for rewriting everything, it kind of depends. Musk wants velocity, and your software architecture can definitely be an impediment to it. You have to do things a certain way if you want to deploy many of times a day seamlessly live.

It sounded to me like the guy was just trying to ask questions that would either show Musk knew what he was talking about or that he was just doing the manager hand waving that managers do when the tech people tell them something.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by GGG

The code has minimal value, the users are the product being sold on every platform.

I would disagree. The users are the value, but what attracts and keeps the users? The systems that make up the product.

What makes up those systems? The code, and all of the tribal knowledge in all of the heads that work with it every day.

Full re-writes are a pretty famous way to kill off a business:

https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/...ver-do-part-i/

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by photon

The stack could have some value as there was effort and expertise putting it together, and Twitter is big enough that's it's not a plug and play system, but still yeah it's going to be a small fraction of the value. The expertise and relationships would have been some of the value but he's burned all that already lol.

As for rewriting everything, it kind of depends. Musk wants velocity, and your software architecture can definitely be an impediment to it. You have to do things a certain way if you want to deploy many of times a day seamlessly live.

It sounded to me like the guy was just trying to ask questions that would either show Musk knew what he was talking about or that he was just doing the manager hand waving that managers do when the tech people tell them something.

Oftentimes we do have the conversation of "If we were to build the product today from scratch, knowing what we know with all the functionality we want, what would it look like?"

I don't believe for one second Elon has had that conversation or knows what's involved in doing so.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by GGG

The code has minimal value, the users are the product being sold on every platform.

While that is true in a sense the reason they are users is because they like what the existing program does, there's no guarantee they would follow a new different version of Twitter that Musk thinks would be better and to be honest Twitters user base is, by social media standards, tiny, it is barely larger than Pinterest.

If he honestly thought the stack was of 'minimal value' Musk could and should have just written his own stack, started his own new 'just like Twitter only better' app for 'free'

[jammies]

If he could articulate specifics about what is wrong with the Twitter code he'd be much more convincing when saying it needs to be rewritten. Anyone can throw around buzzwords like "agile" or "efficient" or "extensible", that's visionary bafflegab used by marketers and salesmen, not serious technical folk.

I very much doubt he even knows what the stack currently is, he just knows he didn't have his meddling fingers in creating it, so it's lacking in the distinctive musk of Musk he loves so well.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Musk isn't helping anything, and while he has a unique potential to be a boost to Tesla more than the other EV companies, it seems like these 50% drops are general trend for EV companies though if looking at Lucid or Rivian during that time period.

Those other companies basically have no revenue.. they aren't comparable to Tesla at all.

TSLA was clearly a meme stock in retrospect. Outside of crypto and TSLA.. I doubt there are many other stocks that people list of their Twitter bio about them being an investor of. Don't see many bios talking about being a coca cola stock holder.

Just hope the posters here who were all over it got out at peak and got out before this blew most of their gains.

[JohnnyB]

edit: nevermind