The Ongoing Super Mega Weather Thread v3

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Heaven forbid we try to steer it down a path of common sense and rationality.

Those are two words I don't associating with many of your posts. Don't get me wrong, your schtick is funny at times but it goes down the road of entertainment not common sense or rationality.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Acey

I think he is serious.

If Sliver is so confident and comfortable in his preference of -30 over +30, it seems unnecessarily defensive to point out that animals also die in fires, as if that somehow negates the fact that they might also die in the cold.

"Oh, cats also die in fires? Forget I said anything about the frozen ones, then..."

Acey, I really wish you were swayed by facts that matter and not the fact that you like to vacation in your bathing suit.

In Brazil alone, in just wild fires in their "wet" lands, 17 million vertebrates died in 2020 alone.

The scientists aimed to calculate how many vertebrates died directly from the wildfires, which doesn't include larger animals like jaguars and panthers that may have died later as a result of burns or destroyed habitat and lack of food. They collected data in the field, accounting for the number of carcasses found up to 48 hours after fire events in the region.

Think of California, Australia, BC and everywhere else there are fires due to heat an lack of precipitation. Probably a couple animals died in those places, too. Like, dude. The heat is way more destructive and it's not even close. This is an insane conversation.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Heaven forbid we try to steer it down a path of common sense and rationality.

You are a nudist racist.

I have never seen so many "but there are something called clothes" posts in my life.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Heaven forbid we try to steer it down a path of common sense and rationality.

I kind of appreciate that just the simple explanation of how some people prefer different weather conditions than others (and explaining how) is so hard for some people to handle that they’ve resorting to insults and attempts to make this personal.

I’m enjoying myself, meanwhile people are desperately running to their coworkers to show them CP and hope someone out there agrees with them (insane?) and coming in here with personal drive-bys to make the topic particular posters instead (loser behaviour).

Acey, EE, trust me guys, again: nobody is taking your hot weather away from you. The people who can handle -30 didn’t invent the weather, we just adapted. There’s no need to get mad at us and make it personal because you’re struggling. Dress better.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

only a nutter gets that invested in debating weather

most normal people just observe and remark on it. the subject is a device to bond and empathize with neighbours and colleagues because it's a struggle we all endure, but in Calgary also a thing we can sometimes marvel at

on another note the roads are pretty treacherous out there, it was that extra dusting two nights ago that did it. seen a few cars propped up on rails and medians, one smashed into a sound barrier. and a poor Canada post truck facing the wrong way on the highway with his bumper hanging off

stay home if you can .. no need to **** up your vehicle just before christmas, and mere hours before the deep freeze breaks

[Johnny Makarov]

Poor slow little guys!

Originally Posted by Sliver

Acey, I really wish you were swayed by facts that matter and not the fact that you like to vacation in your bathing suit.

In Brazil alone, in just wild fires in their "wet" lands, 17 million vertebrates died in 2020 alone.


Think of California, Australia, BC and everywhere else there are fires due to heat an lack of precipitation. Probably a couple animals died in those places, too. Like, dude. The heat is way more destructive and it's not even close. This is an insane conversation.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I kind of appreciate that just the simple explanation of how some people prefer different weather conditions than others (and explaining how) is so hard for some people to handle that they’ve resorting to insults and attempts to make this personal.

I’m enjoying myself, meanwhile people are desperately running to their coworkers to show them CP and hope someone out there agrees with them (insane?) and coming in here with personal drive-bys to make the topic particular posters instead (loser behaviour).

Acey, EE, trust me guys, again: nobody is taking your hot weather away from you. The people who can handle -30 didn’t invent the weather, we just adapted. There’s no need to get mad at us and make it personal because you’re struggling. Dress better.

Yeah. Plus, I thought we were supposed to be embarrassed we spend a whole bunch of time on an Internet forum. Last thing I'm going to do is let my IRL friends know I'm a giant Internet loser in total Internet-loser arguments.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Think of California, Australia, BC and everywhere else there are fires due to heat an lack of precipitation. Probably a couple animals died in those places, too. Like, dude. The heat is way more destructive and it's not even close. This is an insane conversation.

Are you saying that because animals burn in the Amazon that someone can't or shouldn't feel sympathy for frozen cats in Calgary?

God forbid it's possible to be sympathetic to both.

I honestly can't tell if I'm getting trolled.

He was a neutral third party mentioning cold animals and you respond "BUT ANIMALS BURN TOO" lmao that is unhinged

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Acey

Are you saying that because animals burn in the Amazon that someone can't or shouldn't feel sympathy for frozen cats in Calgary?

Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying. Glad I've spent all this time in this discussion. Guess I should have just started with that.

[Acey]

Nobody is saying the heat isn't more destructive overall on a global scale. Nobody thinks this. You're arguing against nothing... except now trending toward implying that by being a normal person who prefers normal temperatures sustained by human beings that I am somehow unaware of the impact forest fires and heat have on the planet.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Acey

Nobody is saying the heat isn't more destructive overall on a global scale. Nobody thinks this. You're arguing against nothing.

But so are you… you’re even showing your friends you are.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

on another note the roads are pretty treacherous out there, it was that extra dusting two nights ago that did it. seen a few cars propped up on rails and medians, one smashed into a sound barrier. and a poor Canada post truck facing the wrong way on the highway with his bumper hanging off

This is really what's being lost here and the biggest detriment to these temperatures, as opposed to burning animals in the Amazon. It's just the fact that the roads suck, people are late for work, their cars won't start, transit crumbles and is late all day, equipment fails, everyone is inside making each other sick, people don't want to shovel their sidewalks making them hazardous, etc.

Sliver's solution to put 10 jackets on unfortunately doesn't solve these logistical issues, and for a city that regularly sees these temperatures it's the same nonsense every year.

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

But so are you… you’re even showing your friends you are.

Why wouldn't I? The burning animals line of thinking has been fantastically entertaining. This isn't middle school... you calling me a loser or loser behaviour or whatever isn't particularly offensive.

[Engine09]

Originally Posted by Sliver

lololololol. Are you serious? It's not painful. You just didn't dress for the conditions.

Do you also go outside in the summer with no shirt, no hat, no sunglasses and no sunscreen and then flap around screaming when you get a sunburn?

Like, give me a break. If you're running home swearing and in pain, it's because you didn't dress warm enough. Do you want me to come over and give you some tips and tricks? Like, if you've lived here more than one year you should have all the clothes you'll need to comfortably handle -30 without batting an eyelash.

I grew up north of the 56th parallel and made regular trips to the arctic over 6 years for work. But I guess I should defer to someone who likely works a comfortable office job and like mentioned before is simply a contrarian bull####ter.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Acey

This is really what's being lost here and the biggest detriment to these temperatures, as opposed to burning animals in the Amazon. It's just the fact that the roads suck, people are late for work, their cars won't start, transit crumbles and is late all day, equipment fails, everyone is inside making each other sick, people don't want to shovel their sidewalks making them hazardous, etc.

Sliver's solution to put 10 jackets on unfortunately doesn't solve these logistical issues, and for a city that regularly sees these temperatures it's the same nonsense every year.

It’s not being lost, it’s just not what the conversation is about. My ability to handle -30 better than +30 isn’t impacted by transit being late or cats dying.

Originally Posted by Acey

Why wouldn't I? The burning animals line of thinking has been fantastically entertaining. This isn't middle school... you calling me a loser or loser behaviour or whatever isn't particularly offensive.

Because it doesn’t make sense to point out someone is arguing against nothing when you’re so excited/stressed about arguing against nothing that you’re showing coworkers to confirm those arguments.

I also wasn’t accusing you of loser behaviour, FYI. That was for Erick. Hating people having a fun, harmless conversation about the weather so much that you have to interject with some attempt to make the conversation about a personal criticism of one particular poster is really sad. I feel bad for him.

You’re not a loser though. Well, no more than any of the rest of us. I’m just trying to understand how your mind works lol.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Engine09

I grew up north of the 56th parallel and made regular trips to the arctic over 6 years for work. But I guess I should defer to someone who likely works a comfortable office job and like mentioned before is simply a contrarian bull####ter.

Did your dog yell in pain?

[jayswin]

The argument is silly of course and just for fun (or at least I thought it was, a couple people seem to be getting genuinely upset and bent out of shape), but the confusion Acey is not that your points aren't clear it's how you respond to the points thrown back at you. To attempt to show the lineage...

Acey - The extreme cold is so bad that it hurts/kills poeple
Others - Yes, but if we're talking extreme conditions hurting killing people here's how much worse hot spells are
Acey - Why are we talking about heat, now I can't talk about how bad the cold is unless we compare it heat? Anyways, cold is worse.

Acey - animals die in extreme cold
Others - Animals die in vast numbers due to heat as well, here's examples
Acey - What is this a competition!! Why are we comparing animals lost in cold to animals lost to warm in this discussion where we're directly comparing heat to cold.

[jayswin]

Either way, a couple pages ago this was still fun and usually it is each year, but it's gotten out of my comfort zone of friendly banter at this point so I'm done with the weather stuff. Too much genuine frustration and anger coming off a few people here.

And for some reason it went back to being "people who like -30 over +30" again, after we established that that isn't the fair comparison between people who like cold weather over hot weather.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Acey - The extreme cold is so bad that it hurts/kills poeple
Acey - animals die in extreme cold

Wrong and wrong.

I pointed out that EC has "Frostbite in minutes" on the weather forecast and said nothing about it killing anybody; though I did mention the kid who lost his fingertips here the other day I never said anything about him being close to death or anyone being close to death. I did not bring up death totals for either hypothermia or the heat wave, I simply dismissed the latter because the comparison was -30 vs 30.

I am not the one who brought up the animals AT ALL. Please go back and read the name of the poster who brought up animals.

Maybe you should take a vacation from the thread, you're putting words in my mouth and doing a terrible job of paraphrasing. At least quote me.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

nothing says christmas time around CP like posters digging up statistical data on lives lost to extreme heat events with pictures of suffering animals for dramatic effect

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

nothing says christmas time around CP like posters digging up statistical data on lives lost to extreme heat events with pictures of suffering animals for dramatic effect

I've done 2 hours of work a day for the past week. I might not hit that today... lol