The Ongoing Super Mega Weather Thread v3

[Northendzone]

Sounds like Ontario and parts of the US are heading for some interesting weather over the next few days.

The nfl fantasy pool guy was talking about Cleveland having 50mph winds Sunday

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

Sounds like Ontario and parts of the US are heading for some interesting weather over the next few days.

The nfl fantasy pool guy was talking about Cleveland having 50mph winds Sunday

Yeah it's going to be nuts, all the way down to the south as well

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Unless you’re outside between 3am and 530am the temp is more like -25. Maybe -28 in the evening. Possibly as high as -22 during the day when people are actually out.

This seemed wrong so I checked. Today was -31 at midnight, -30 at 9 am, briefly -27 at 2 pm then back to -28 right now and will stay there the rest of the day. Most of the day was right at -30.

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

Less privileged people also live in the arctic, people from the northern tribes have lived there for generations.

Solid argument. People that need but can't afford proper winter gear would take great comfort in this.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

Less privileged people also live in the arctic, people from the northern tribes have lived there for generations.

That sounds like a them problem

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Acey

This seemed wrong so I checked. Today was -31 at midnight, -30 at 9 am, briefly -27 at 2 pm then back to -28 right now and will stay there the rest of the day. Most of the day was right at -30.



Solid argument. People that need but can't afford proper winter gear would take great comfort in this.

No it’s right. Did you look at the rest of the week?

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

No it’s right. Did you look at the rest of the week?

Does today not count as part of this week?

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

That sounds like a them problem

Yeah I mean we do a winter clothing drive every year at work. I guess we should stop because... people in the Arctic have lived like this for generations so why bother?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Acey

Does today not count as part of this week?

And? What’s your point?

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by Acey

This seemed wrong so I checked. Today was -31 at midnight, -30 at 9 am, briefly -27 at 2 pm then back to -28 right now and will stay there the rest of the day. Most of the day was right at -30.



Solid argument. People that need but can't afford proper winter gear would take great comfort in this.

You were talking about people of the world, and so was I lol.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by troutman

I have a video meeting with a client in Sydney tomorrow. I assume there will be a 60 degree difference between us.

I thought it was always less than 6.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

That sounds like a them problem

They love it for some reason, heritage, love for the land of their ancestors and nature or whatever else.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by chemgear

I thought it was always less than 6.

Sydney is pretty remote. Maybe if he can get in with Paul Hogan somehow, he can narrow his KB number to 2.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Acey

Solid argument. People that need but can't afford proper winter gear would take great comfort in this.

About 30-40 people die per year from hypothermia in Alberta. In 2021, the heatwave caused 66 deaths over one week.

But I’m sure the 66 dead bodies will be thankful that their death was more affordable. Solid argument

[Acey]

That's a much better argument than everything so far, aside from the 2021 heat wave having temps a good bit over 30 to kill that many people.

Bringing up a heat wave death count because we have sympathy for people in need of winter clothing seems like a bit of whataboutism, but that's the entire debate anyway I suppose.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by keratosis

Some weather we're having eh?

Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk

I hadnt noticed.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Isn't the comparison more about -25 to 30 vs +35ish? Those both seem to happen about 2 weeks per year.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Acey

That's a much better argument than everything so far, aside from the 2021 heat wave having temps a good bit over 30 to kill that many people.

Bringing up a heat wave death count because we have sympathy for people in need of winter clothing seems like a bit of whataboutism, but that's the entire debate anyway I suppose.

No, that's not what whataboutism means. Whataboutism is taking a point and bringing up an unrelated issue. You brought up the existence and threat of death from cold here, and he countered directly with heat related deaths here.

You also flippantly brushed it off as "one heat wave" when he clearly mentioned 66 deaths in ONE WEEK, when there are 30-40 hypothermia deaths per year in Alberta. It jives with what I've seen from following the news, that you're much more likely to die from heat related deaths in Alberta than cold related deaths.

[accord1999]

That depends on what you consider cold related deaths, because there is a consistent trend (not just Canada but almost the entire world) of deaths from all reasons increasing during the cold months and decreasing during the warm months. This is often attributed to colder temperatures increasing the spread of airborne infectious diseases (like the flu and now COVID) and exacerbating existing cardiovascular and respiratory illnesses.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by jayswin

No, that's not what whataboutism means. Whataboutism is taking a point and bringing up an unrelated issue. You brought up the existence and threat of death from cold here, and he countered directly with heat related deaths here.

You also flippantly brushed it off as "one heat wave" when he clearly mentioned 66 deaths in ONE WEEK, when there are 30-40 hypothermia deaths per year in Alberta. It jives with what I've seen from following the news, that you're much more likely to die from heat related deaths in Alberta than cold related deaths.

I think I made mention only of the "frostbite within minutes" threat by Environment Canada. Frostbite is not death.

Second point, which you ignored, is that the heat wave was at temperatures well exceeding +30, which is what the debate was about. So the number to cite to would be the lethality rate in Alberta at +30.

Lastly, heat wave deaths exceeding hypothermia deaths doesn't make you "win". It's still likely true that the majority of Albertans prefer +30 to -30, despite the horrific lethality of +30 you've clearly proven.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Acey

I think I made mention only of the "frostbite within minutes" threat by Environment Canada. Frostbite is not death.

Second point, which you ignored, is that the heat wave was at temperatures well exceeding +30, which is what the debate was about. So the number to cite to would be the lethality rate in Alberta at +30.

Lastly, heat wave deaths exceeding hypothermia deaths doesn't make you "win". It's still likely true that the majority of Albertans prefer +30 to -30, despite the horrific lethality of +30 you've clearly proven.

Frostbite within minutes on exposed skin. I'll remind you again: clothes exist.

[undercoverbrother]

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