[PGT] Flames lose 5-2 to the St Louis Boooos!

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Yikes

The Monahan trade was smart, at any time his career could be over to injury. With his history of surgeries I was actually shocked a team took him/his contract on. The only albatross contract is the coaches extension.

Nope - small market Canadian teams can’t be giving away firsts. None of these contracts will look good in a couple of years, and we ain’t a contender in the meantime.

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

can't get over that they benched Ruzicka to double-shift Lucic. in what world does that make any sense

Alot of people with their head in the sand IMO. We consistently see Sutter guys play ahead of guys who take chances and try to get creative. In Sutters mind were not checking enough in dump in situations to create the offence. He said as much in his interview on TNT during the Canucks game (God is TNT a 100x better production than anything we get up here).

Like was said earlier. Tkachuk was a checker. A skilled one. Gaudreau was small but able to go into hard areas and fish out pucks and carry the puck. As much as youd think they werent "Sutter" guys their skill sets really were suited for what Sutter preaches. We cant undo the contracts we signed to the new guys, we can do a redo on the coach though.

[Infinit47]

Would love to see a Treliving presser to get his impressions on why the team is garbage.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Would love to see a Treliving presser to get his impressions on why the team is garbage.

It's a process.

[Manhattanboy]

Would also be interesting to know how ownership really felt about a rebuild last summer. With the arena sitch etc.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

can't get over that they benched Ruzicka to double-shift Lucic. in what world does that make any sense

Ruzicka must've made some inconsequential mistake, or taken his foot off the gas for a second. You have to work with the young guys, not make them scared to make a mistake-see: Connor Mackey.

[keenan87]

For those wanting Sutter gone.. how many more coaches does this horrible GM get before he is also fired. That must be an NHL record.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

think if the coach goes, the gm has to go with him

need a house cleaning similar to the canucks'

turn a new leaf above and below

[gvitaly]

The only thing I can say about this game is "never in doubt". It's amazing how different this team looks this year. I don't even know what they can do to 'fix' it. Hopefully they figure it out. If they don't I hope they start with a new management team, and a new approach towards building a team.

[Ashasx]

the excuse to rebuild was right ####ing there

[Manhattanboy]

I don’t see Sutter going anywhere unless he steps down once it’s clear the team will not be in the playoffs.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by keenan87

For those wanting Sutter gone.. how many more coaches does this horrible GM get before he is also fired. That must be an NHL record.

Brad’s contract is up this year and there hasn’t been any rumors of him re-signing. So he may as well be gone in the offseason

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Ruzicka must've made some inconsequential mistake, or taken his foot off the gas for a second. You have to work with the young guys, not make them scared to make a mistake-see: Connor Mackey.

I wasn't paying much attention, what did Rosie do that deserved benching? And why was Lucic the double shifted? I'd rather Zahorna the one double shifted. He was play well the last two games, and once he's saddled by Lucic, he couldn't do anything.

[soulchoice]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Would love to see a Treliving presser to get his impressions on why the team is garbage.

"It's a process".
"I have as much to blame as anyone else"

Guarantee that is what will be said.

Oh and listening to Derek Wills anytime he gives his analysis is head smashing.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by keenan87

For those wanting Sutter gone.. how many more coaches does this horrible GM get before he is also fired. That must be an NHL record.

Step 1 is to fire Treliving. Let the new GM come in and clean house.

It was a mistake to not replace Treliving after Gaudreau left and Tkachuk said he wouldn't sign here long term.

They gave Treliving a chance to swing for the fences and it looks like he whiffed hard.

Terrible business decision by Edwards.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

the excuse to rebuild was right ####ing there

timing was perfect

one year of suffering and then there would be hope

instead we sign all those big contracts, still suffer this year but no hope

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

I wasn't paying much attention, what did Rosie do that deserved benching? And why was Lucic the double shifted? I'd rather Zahorna the one double shifted. He was play well the last two games, and once he's saddled by Lucic, he couldn't do anything.

Exactly my point. It's frustrating to see the negative bias towards the younger guys. I'm with you too, Zo should've seen more ice, but he was benched too.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Personally, I don’t think they have given up on Sutter at all. They’re still engaged, playing hard, checking, keeping the shots and chances down.

But without 13 and 19, the easy goals are gone, they have to score the hard goals. The top line just made it so easy for everyone last year, generating momentum, dangerous scoring chances, tiring out opposition defenders and putting the next line out with possession and in a position to score.

There is something to be said for this take, pissed off as I am at the crappy play.

[Ashasx]

they are gonna fire treliving, hire nieuwendyk, and go for it all again next season to hopefully finish in a wildcard spot

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

more than huberdeaus monstrosity of a contract I just want to shed markstrom so we can roll with vladar and wolf and enjoy watching the future in net