"Take that Calgary Puck!" — SN960 and Calgary sports media discussion

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I'm in Toronto for work and was listening to the FAN590 here this morning and their hosts are planning to attack the FAN960 by flooding their text line with Bieber lyrics lol as payback for FAN960 listeners blowing out the 590 text line last week with what their new goal song should be. I sent the boys at 960 a warning text so they're prepared haha.

Going to be chaos today.

Well they might as well read them on the air, couldn't be worse then the awful stories they've been reading all week for the Metallica tickets. Had a lengthy text conversation yesterday with I presume was Matt Rhodes about the morning show, reading the dumb texts and all the time they took with the annoying sports betting picks.

[cral12]

any clip/link to Seravelli on this morning? interesting his take on Reaves hit and the quote he had

[cral12]

Originally Posted by cral12

any clip/link to Seravelli on this morning? interesting his take on Reaves hit and the quote he had

Ah found it: 21:00 just after - Rusic & Rose w/ Seravelli - talking the Reaves hit on Hronek: https://www.sportsnet.ca/960/big-sho...ek-15-preview/

[Jiri Hrdina]

It's a brutal hit designed to hurt a player instead of retrieving the puck.
If Hronek goes on to have life-changing concussion issues will Reaves feel good about how he impacted someone's life?
That stuff HAS to be removed from the game.
Seravelli is right. "The game doesn't have to be this dangerous.".

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

It's a brutal hit designed to hurt a player instead of retrieving the puck.
If Hronek goes on to have life-changing concussion issues will Reaves feel good about how he impacted someone's life?
That stuff HAS to be removed from the game.
Seravelli is right. "The game doesn't have to be this dangerous.".

how can you decide if a hit is too hard though

[Strange Brew]

Well I think a player is able to decide if the hit he is about to level on someone is likely to injure them. Reaves hit him as hard as he could. At this point, the players are too big and too fast for that kind of violent collision.

I know people like big hits. I do too. But when the hits are so big that players can't walk away from them, what is the point exactly?

If a player gets hurt, and the hitter could have avoided it, maybe there needs to be some repercussions. Regardless of how "legal" the hit was.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Well I think a player is able to decide if the hit he is about to level on someone is likely to injure them. Reaves hit him as hard as he could. At this point, the players are too big and too fast for that kind of violent collision.

I know people like big hits. I do too. But when the hits are so big that players can't walk away from them, what is the point exactly?

If a player gets hurt, and the hitter could have avoided it, maybe there needs to be some repercussions. Regardless of how "legal" the hit was.

I agree Reaves didn't have to hit Hronek that hard, but players should keep their head up and protect themselves a bit. Even if Reaves didn't plough through Hronek he had no chance to protect himself cause his head was down.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

I agree Reaves didn't have to hit Hronek that hard, but players should keep their head up and protect themselves a bit. Even if Reaves didn't plough through Hronek he had no chance to protect himself cause his head was down.

That’s fine to say but it’s still on the hitter.

Players don’t intentionally put their heads down hoping to get their lights put out.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

I agree Reaves didn't have to hit Hronek that hard, but players should keep their head up and protect themselves a bit. Even if Reaves didn't plough through Hronek he had no chance to protect himself cause his head was down.

Yeah I agree strongly with what you are saying there. Hockey is an inherently fast game and that creates risk.

You shouldn't cross the street with your eyes closed. You shouldn't skate through middle of the ice with your head down.

IMO you can believe this as well as believe that there is no need to truck someone that hard.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I’m totally in the “Reaves needed avoid trying to kill a defenceless player” camp. He absolutely should have let up. And as ridiculous as it was that the injured player was skating up the ice with the puck on his stick while looking directly behind himself for an extended period of time, I still won’t take the “keep your head up if you don’t wanna get killed” attitude.

But Reaves did not come even close to hitting him as hard as he could. Reaves was simply coasting thru the neutral zone on a normal pressure situation. The hit was not predatory at all like we’ve seen from guys like Wilson who line up a player from 100 feet away and come in skating full tilt with intent to injure.

Compared to the hits that piece of garbage in NY has been throwing recently, the Reaves hit barely registers. That POS for the rangers is legit trying to kill someone and he doesn’t belong in this league.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Trouba. That’s the guy for the rangers I’m thinking off. What an ####### that guy is.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

That’s fine to say but it’s still on the hitter.

Players don’t intentionally put their heads down hoping to get their lights put out.

If a player is carrying the puck they should not have their head down. The opposing team can hit the puck carrier.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

If a player is carrying the puck they should not have their head down. The opposing team can hit the puck carrier.

Even the nfl, the most pro concussion league in existence, has rules to try and prevent defenceless players from getting destroyed. The nhl needs the same. He onus is on the hitter to let up a bit.

[Mindtravellee]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Even the nfl, the most pro concussion league in existence, has rules to try and prevent defenceless players from getting destroyed. The nhl needs the same. He onus is on the hitter to let up a bit.

Kinda. It is part of the game, and you don't want to get to the point where every head contact is a penalty or where 6"4 guys can bump cause it'll always be head contact.

If the NHL cared about concussion they'd ensure players receive time off from concussion protocol and allow a non-wavier call up

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Even the nfl, the most pro concussion league in existence, has rules to try and prevent defenceless players from getting destroyed. The nhl needs the same. He onus is on the hitter to let up a bit.

I don't disagree. But the way the rule is the puck carrier can get hit to be separated from the puck. So the puck carrier should always have their head up to protect themselves. You can't trust someone else to always do the right thing.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

I don't disagree. But the way the rule is the puck carrier can get hit to be separated from the puck. So the puck carrier should always have their head up to protect themselves. You can't trust someone else to always do the right thing.

And you can’t expect the puck carrier to always protect themselves in those situations.

Doesn’t matter if he can get hit, you shouldn’t hit him like that. Period.

I get what you’re saying, but you’re putting all the onus on the guy who got hit.

[Strange Brew]

Saying that you should not carry the puck with your head down is not putting "all" the onus on the puck carrier.

The same way you need to protect yourself along the boards too.

The goal here is for players not to get hurt, right? Keep your head up.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Saying that you should not carry the puck with your head down is not putting "all" the onus on the puck carrier.

The same way you need to protect yourself along the boards too.

The goal here is for players not to get hurt, right? Keep your head up.

It assumes that players don’t know that and keep their head down regularly and on purpose. These guys are in the NHL. Hronek has been playing contact hockey for like… what? 10? 15 years? He knows, so for whatever reason his head was down, it wasn’t because he didn’t.

That’s why it’s the responsibility of the hitter to let up. Not for when guys are ready for the hit, but for when they aren’t.

[Enoch Root]

Yeah, guys don't have their head down because they're stupid, or because they aren't aware of it. There are simply times when it happens - maybe the puck is in your feet, or whatever. You want to keep your head up, and you want to keep yourself out of vulnerable situations, but they WILL happen. And when they do, the attacking player should not be allowed to wreck them, causing injury.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dino7c

how can you decide if a hit is too hard though

You draw the line somewhere.
THAT hit is too hard isn't it?