The ongoing X and Elon Musk Transgressions Thread

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

To be fair, it is dumb that you need to be born in the USA to run for president. That just creates two classes of citizenship in the US. Ted Cruz was born in Canada and couldn't be more American/Republican if he tried.

Not that I want Ted or Elon as president.

I think if you're born outside the U.S. but both your parents are American at the time, you're still eligible (which is why Ted Cruz was able to run in 2016).

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.benzinga.com/quote/TSLA/...nga%20Insights

Here are some analyst targets, most seeing lots of upside. The problem is, Tesla stock behaves pretty irrationally due to cult-like status. The best move Tesla could make now would be to ditch Musk and provide some stability. Keeping him around? Who knows where it goes, depending what he does. I'd definitely sit on the sidelines on this one until it finds a floor, maybe around $140. If it bust through that level...

I am sure there are several people at Tesla that wonder what he actual does there. Wasn’t he forced out of the C-Suite by thr SEC?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Coach

But the legend of the rent was way hardcore.

In his heart he knew the Artist must be true but the legend of the rent was way past due!!!

[kermitology]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603116690165964801

So much freedom of speech it hurts..

Elon may just be a Russian asset.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

I think if you're born outside the U.S. but both your parents are American at the time, you're still eligible (which is why Ted Cruz was able to run in 2016).

Ted Cruz's father was not American, he was Cuban. It seems like eons ago now, but in the Republican primaries in 2016 Cruz's eligibility was questioned by his opponents for that very reason.

The "natural-born citizen" requirement has been interpreted to mean "born with American citizenship", whether by virtue of being born on American soil or being conferred American citizenship by descent. Cruz was automatically American by birth, by virtue of his mother being American (and had lived in the US since birth and hadn't moved to Canada until well into adulthood).

Musk became a naturalized US citizen in 2002. His closest ties to American citizenry are through his maternal grandfather, who was born in the US. His grandfather moved to Canada as a child and Musk's mother was born in Canada, and she did not automatically receive American citizenship because her father—while American by birth—had been living outside the US since childhood. Since she wasn't American by birth, neither was Elon, thus he's not a "natural-born citizen" and can't be president.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by timun

Ted Cruz's father was not American, he was Cuban. It seems like eons ago now, but in the Republican primaries in 2016 Cruz's eligibility was questioned by his opponents for that very reason.

The "natural-born citizen" requirement has been interpreted to mean "born with American citizenship", whether by virtue of being born on American soil or being conferred American citizenship by descent. Cruz was automatically American by birth, by virtue of his mother being American (and had lived in the US since birth and hadn't moved to Canada until well into adulthood).

Musk became a naturalized US citizen in 2002. His closest ties to American citizenry are through his maternal grandfather, who was born in the US. His grandfather moved to Canada as a child and Musk's mother was born in Canada, and she did not automatically receive American citizenship because her father—while American by birth—had been living outside the US since childhood. Since she wasn't American by birth, neither was Elon, thus he's not a "natural-born citizen" and can't be president.

That's interesting, because US citizenship operates different from every country on the planet, save Eritrea. If you have a parent who is a natural born US citizen, you can be born elsewhere and you're a US citizen. What that means isn't jus that you can vote in elections and such, it means that you have the pay US taxes. I don't want to derail this thread, but then again it's a disaster and it feels like Twitter was sold eons ago!

Google "accidental Americans" and you can find all kinds of stories of people who had no idea that they were US citizens. Never lived there, never voted and had no attachments...but owed taxes. In my line of work that becomes a problem for people when it comes to things like RESPs/TFSAs and such (along with the other tax issues that arise). And if you have a passing interest but wonder...no, you don't have to "claim" the citizenship for it to be valid. You are a US citizen in those cases and have to deal with that ramification...either through renouncing this citizenship or filing US taxes and the associated things.

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by Slava

That's interesting, because US citizenship operates different from every country on the planet, save Eritrea. If you have a parent who is a natural born US citizen, you can be born elsewhere and you're a US citizen. What that means isn't jus that you can vote in elections and such, it means that you have the pay US taxes. I don't want to derail this thread, but then again it's a disaster and it feels like Twitter was sold eons ago!

Google "accidental Americans" and you can find all kinds of stories of people who had no idea that they were US citizens. Never lived there, never voted and had no attachments...but owed taxes. In my line of work that becomes a problem for people when it comes to things like RESPs/TFSAs and such (along with the other tax issues that arise). And if you have a passing interest but wonder...no, you don't have to "claim" the citizenship for it to be valid. You are a US citizen in those cases and have to deal with that ramification...either through renouncing this citizenship or filing US taxes and the associated things.

The IRS is pretty ruthless about getting their tax money from these people too. Had a family member deal with them involving something similar. Thankfully they didn't get the money (would have been 40+ years worth of taxes) but some lawyers sure got paid.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by kermitology

So much freedom of speech it hurts..

Elon may just be a Russian asset.

What a mind bottling decision. He must have forgotten about the Streisand Effect? Anyone who really wants to use that info in a malicious way already knows how to get it.

[photon]

Twitter hastily writes a new rule to retroactively justify his banning of the account he didn't like.



So I guess taking a picture in public is now against Twitter rules.

[CroFlames]

Isn't that the main reason he bought twitter? So he could ban that singular account that was tracking his jet.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

What a mind bottling decision. He must have forgotten about the Streisand Effect? Anyone who really wants to use that info in a malicious way already knows how to get it.

Next he'll buy Flight Aware. Elon is an idiot. His only talent is access to capital.

[kermitology]

Also, it's now unbanned, and he can post aircraft locations after a 24-hour delay.

My signature quote is never not relevant..

[KootenayFlamesFan]

So can the press say where the President is anymore? He's literally just making things up as he goes along, specifically how it affects him. What a mess.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603181423787380737

[KootenayFlamesFan]

So wait, you can sue someone for something they had nothing to do with? The guy is getting Trumpier by the minute.

Just say you only care about yourself and your own feelings, and nobody else's on twitter. That would be easier.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603190155107794944

[photon]

Well don't drive around LA in a private jet and it won't get tracked on Twitter, duh.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Muffins

The IRS is pretty ruthless about getting their tax money from these people too. Had a family member deal with them involving something similar. Thankfully they didn't get the money (would have been 40+ years worth of taxes) but some lawyers sure got paid.

Similarly one of my aunts was born in the US to a Canadian serviceman, and did not find out until she was well into middle-age that she was American by birth and the IRS wanted about 30 years of back-taxes. Took a long while to straighten out; I'm not sure but I think she went as far as renouncing her American citizenship, which in and of itself is a pain in the ass and incurs a final "#### you" fee of a few thousand dollars.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by timun

Similarly one of my aunts was born in the US to a Canadian serviceman, and did not find out until she was well into middle-age that she was American by birth and the IRS wanted about 30 years of back-taxes. Took a long while to straighten out; I'm not sure but I think she went as far as renouncing her American citizenship, which in and of itself is a pain in the ass and incurs a final "#### you" fee of a few thousand dollars.

Yeah and there’s a significant waiting list. It’s quite a process and I think Moody’s does a bustling business in that area. They run seminars explaining the issue and how to renounce.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

So wait, you can sue someone for something they had nothing to do with? The guy is getting Trumpier by the minute.

Just say you only care about yourself and your own feelings, and nobody else's on twitter. That would be easier.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603190155107794944

Sorry this doesn’t make any sense. He’s taking legal action against a stalker case closed.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Sorry this doesn’t make any sense. He’s taking legal action against a stalker case closed.

I’m thanking your post because you are just hilarious.

Yes its despicable really, the STALKER should be caught, tried, and hanged immediately!!

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Sorry this doesn’t make any sense. He’s taking legal action against a stalker case closed.

The legal action will maybe be a cease and desist letter. There is nothing illegal about taking information already legally publically available and posting it on twitter.

This guy isn't out there following his plane around.