12-13-2022, 10:21 AM
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Yeah, right now Skinner is in a position to cash in big time.
The Oilers can't really afford that, especially with Conna's and Leon's contracts coming due.
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12-13-2022, 10:25 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Yeah, right now Skinner is in a position to cash in big time.
The Oilers can't really afford that, especially with Conna's and Leon's contracts coming due.
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Skinner also has a 3.10 GAA and .908 save percent since Nov 1. He's been good but it's not like he's completely forcing their hand to not even look at Campbell more often. Campbell has been very bad though and no signs of getting better. You can't even say he's been a bit better of late. October was his best month.
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12-13-2022, 10:58 AM
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#3203
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All I can get
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It is indeed comical to read the witty rejoinders regarding the Edmonton hockey team.
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12-13-2022, 11:09 AM
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#3204
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Powerplay Quarterback
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12-13-2022, 11:13 AM
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#3205
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Burner
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Ha ha even his peers know he's massively overpaid.
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12-13-2022, 04:24 PM
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#3206
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Burner
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Definitely a good and deserved shot to the ego.
Also one of those hollow beaks... "haha you make $9 million!" hm. Nurse clearly doesn't have the shame necessary for this beak to really effect him, as he chose to re sign with the oilers.
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12-13-2022, 04:40 PM
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Norm!
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Its literally ridiculous to look at the Oilers cap situation and believe unless they're going to give up major assets to aquire a good defenseman where they get a salary break, that its going to happen.
Even going into next year, they have a roster of 14 and 10.8 million to fill it to 22 that they're not in a ridiculous amount of cap trouble.
If Skinner even continues to have a decent season as their starter that he's not getting a minimum of 4.5. Bouchard is going to push for 5 or might do less on a short term deal. Kostin is meh, but he's going to at least hit 2.5.
So they're going to literally be at the cap with 17 players and have to replace guys like Poolparty who ain't going to be back if they can't trade him, and replace 3 or 4 guys on their worthless bottom 6.
The Oilers are being pushed into a cap corner where they might have to trade either a RNH, Tyson Barrie for cap release while getting next to nothing back. or enough low rent players to fill their lineup.
They're being pushed so hard, that they're probably going to be forced no matter what to trade a guy like Draisaitl to get some sanity to back to their cap. Because when you look at what happens after next year, especially with their poor history of their draft. Next year is really the end of their competitive window.
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12-13-2022, 04:44 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Definitely a good and deserved shot to the ego.
Also one of those hollow beaks... "haha you make $9 million!" hm. Nurse clearly doesn't have the shame necessary for this beak to really effect him, as he chose to re sign with the oilers.
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And the on-ice play is very different in comparison to real life.
I mean...I'm not going to tell you that if you put me in Nurse's shoes I'd have done a damned thing differently.
Nurse is a mediocre player at best. 3/4 Dman.
You know who else is giving that man $9.25M/year for $74 Million Dollars?
Nobody.
If someone is offering a player of Nurse's caliber that kind of money you sign on the dotted line, take the cash and start the car! Sure he'll never win anything, but $74M wipes away a lot of tears shed over a mediocre career.
So sure, he's brutally overpaid and I think he's a bad hockey player...but I cant say financially speaking that he's an idiot. That contract for him is like winning a lottery.
Take the money and run.
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12-13-2022, 04:49 PM
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#3209
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Definitely a good and deserved shot to the ego.
Also one of those hollow beaks... "haha you make $9 million!" hm. Nurse clearly doesn't have the shame necessary for this beak to really effect him, as he chose to re sign with the oilers.
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Who else would offer him $9.25M a year for 8 years? That's $74M! He must be thinking, beak all you want, I'm laughing with you all the way to the bank.
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12-13-2022, 05:02 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Locke
And the on-ice play is very different in comparison to real life.
I mean...I'm not going to tell you that if you put me in Nurse's shoes I'd have done a damned thing differently.
Nurse is a mediocre player at best. 3/4 Dman.
You know who else is giving that man $9.25M/year for $74 Million Dollars?
Nobody.
If someone is offering a player of Nurse's caliber that kind of money you sign on the dotted line, take the cash and start the car! Sure he'll never win anything, but $74M wipes away a lot of tears shed over a mediocre career.
So sure, he's brutally overpaid and I think he's a bad hockey player...but I cant say financially speaking that he's an idiot. That contract for him is like winning a lottery.
Take the money and run.
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This post sums it up nicely, but needs to be added onto.
somehow Ken Holland and the Oilers hockey department lost their fricken minds. Or they had a massive fear of the public effects of a drawn out contract negotiation.
It was a perfect storm for Nurse. We had that whacky covid schedule, where the Canadian teams were all pretty weak, but Nurse took advantage of that. On top of that he had a amazing outlier shooting percentage of 10.4 percent. Before that his highest in a full season was just above 5%. So basically he was hitting bodies out front and getting amazing bounces, and facing a weak division. That whole season was a fricken outlier, which the rational fans on CalgaryPuck screamed, its a complete fluke season.
But the Edmonton Hockey department might have looked at the stats and his previous performance and said, yeah he deserves a raise, but you know this looks flukey.
Nope instead they did what they always did, they looked at it from a how will that fans look at this and the press. Its like drafting a guy way about his position because he has a youtube video of his bouncing a puck on his nose while making seal noises. You have to draft his because we're playing the media.
I firmly believe that the Oilers hockey department and ownership is so dumb. That they believed that if they signed Nurse to top top blueline dollars that the fans and the media would believe they had solved their lack of number 1 defenseman or even number 2 defenseman problems. And now fixing that was a problem of two or three years down the road because "Look Nurse is making 9 million we believe that he is a number 1 defenseman and so should you". Stupid.
And what happened? Nurse who probably also worked hard in his contract year. We'll he didn't have pucks bouncing off shin pads and in. He wasn't facing weak opponents 3 out of every 4 nights. And his lack of hockey IQ, defensive brains in his own end showed back up the next year, and this year.
The hilarity of it is this. Darnell Nurse. He's Denis Gauthier with better offensive skills. That's it that's all, but Gauthier was better in his own end. But they literally signed Gauthier 2.5 for 9 million bucks a year. Absorb that, giggle at the lunacy. And then . . . . think about the fact that this wasn't a free agent deal. There was no pressure on then to do this. Hell they could have waited until deep into the next season to see if he actually was that good or a fluke.
And Locke's right, Nurse doesn't need to win anything, he doesn't need to stress and worry, they can't fire him. They can't trade him and even if they want to, he's in the drivers seat on that. They can't buy that deal out.
They crippled themselves, and Nurse can't hear them, he has a porche in each ear.
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12-13-2022, 05:07 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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If their is a gentlemen's agreement between Poolparty and Holland that if it didn't work out, they would make an effort to move him for a reset, why would they do a deal for $3mm? You could have predicted back when it was signed that the amount was too high anyway, but was really high if he underperformed making him immovable. Just idiocy. By both sides. And that is his qualifying offer right? WTF.
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12-13-2022, 06:06 PM
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Scoring Winger
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12-13-2022, 06:15 PM
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#3213
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#1 Goaltender
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1 shot 1 goal for Campbell. This signing couldn't have been any worse for them. They might buy him out lol
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12-13-2022, 06:21 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macho0978
Skinner also has a 3.10 GAA and .908 save percent since Nov 1. He's been good but it's not like he's completely forcing their hand to not even look at Campbell more often. Campbell has been very bad though and no signs of getting better. You can't even say he's been a bit better of late. October was his best month.
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I know that we blow through statistics quickly, but I wanted to point out what these 2 stats taken together show. So skinner is saving slightly better than 9 shots in 10. Decent enough. But his GAA is over 3 meaning that he’s seeing over 30 shots every single time he straps on the pads. Knowing the oilers defence, those aren’t peripheral low risk shots. Basically, skinner is standing on his head every night and they still have to score 4 goals every night. No wonder the tenderness is being feted as the new best 4th oiler.
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12-13-2022, 06:21 PM
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#3215
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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12-13-2022, 06:24 PM
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#3216
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: YYZ
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
1 shot 1 goal for Campbell. This signing couldn't have been any worse for them. They might buy him out lol
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Elite goal scorer Cody Glass has -check's notes- 1 G this season, so Campbell can console himself with that.
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12-13-2022, 06:25 PM
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First Line Centre
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Oooof, start warming up the groin Smith
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12-13-2022, 06:49 PM
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#3218
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
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That was 10-ply bud.
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12-14-2022, 07:26 AM
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First Line Centre
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Hot off the press, Oilers fans on Twitter telling me Verbeek watching Oilers because the trade is going to be Puljujarvi for Klingberg with Anaheim retaining 50%. When I pointed out that Anaheim probably needs a significant sweetener for such a deal I was verbally abused saying I know nothing about hockey.
Is there a more delusional fan base in all of professional sport? I mean really……
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12-14-2022, 08:12 AM
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#3220
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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I love how they assume teams will retain salary to do the Oilers a favor.
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