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Old 12-12-2022, 09:42 PM   #221
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Markstrom was great, honestly that's exactly what this team needs to get it's confidence back. I'm cautiously optimistic. I hope Tanev is okay, and hopefully he doesn't miss too much time, but he is vital if we want to get back to winning.

All in all I'm surprised at how many times we end up short handed. It didn't seem like a problem last year with largely the same roster. Sutter if you're reading this please try a line of Huberdeau - Dube/Ruzicka - Toffoli.
at home he seems to s**** bricks though .. can he do it at home?
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Old 12-12-2022, 09:43 PM   #222
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did we get punished again for Darryl indirectly saying the refs play to the home team in Toronto?
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Old 12-12-2022, 09:46 PM   #223
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Since basic logic is severely lacking here, let me break it down it real slow for you guys:

On Feb 14th, 2022, Calgary traded Heineman, Tyler Pitlick and a 2022 1st rounder for Toffoli.

On Aug 18th, 2022, Calgary traded Monahan and a 1st rounder for diddly squat.

When you simply add up those 2 transactions you get:

Monahan (this season) + Heineman + Pitlick (last season) + 2 1st rounders for Toffoli (last year + this)

Yes Toffoli's cap hit this year is $2.125M less than Monny's.

All in all it's fantastic business by the Habs who clearly CRUSH these trades from all accounts except for the majority of CP posters it seems.

But then again i wouldn't expect much different from this board who defended the Hamonic trade for years.
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Old 12-12-2022, 09:46 PM   #224
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That, and I don't even see shootout losses as actual losses. It's a tie (especially in non-conference games), just blew the shot at a bonus point in a breakaway competition.
Yeah its just not a team game at that point.
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Old 12-12-2022, 09:48 PM   #225
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Has there been any Tanev updates yet? Sure hope he's all good
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Old 12-12-2022, 09:49 PM   #226
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not having kylington here has hurt so much more than I thought it would
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Old 12-12-2022, 09:52 PM   #227
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Just watched the game. Not much creativity from anyone.
Cycle...cycle...cycle...around boards to point...weak shot that misses net...cycle...cycle...cycle...around boards to point. Weak shot that misses the net...andddd cleared.

Powerplay is painful to watch. Again no creativity, We have a heck of a time getting The puck anywhere near the net. No one wants to stand in front and screen...

Ritchie had a great game but guessing he is a healthy scratch next game.
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Since basic logic is severely lacking here, let me break it down it real slow for you guys:

On Feb 14th, 2022, Calgary traded Heineman, Tyler Pitlick and a 2022 1st rounder for Toffoli.

On Aug 18th, 2022, Calgary traded Monahan and a 1st rounder for diddly squat.

When you simply add up those 2 transactions you get:

Monahan (this season) + Heineman + Pitlick (last season) + 2 1st rounders for Toffoli (last year + this)

Yes Toffoli's cap hit this year is $2.125M less than Monny's.

All in all it's fantastic business by the Habs who clearly CRUSH these trades from all accounts except for the majority of CP posters it seems.

But then again i wouldn't expect much different from this board who defended the Hamonic trade for years.
But that wasn't the trade and cap space isn't Dudley squat.
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Yeah. You can't add two unrelated trades together and ignore the third key trade in the equation.
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If the Flames won the shootout, this thread would be way more positive. That’s stupid.
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Yeah. You can't add two unrelated trades together and ignore the third key trade in the equation.
Hahahaha can you please tell me more about this third key trade the Flames and Habs made this year?? My memory must be failing me as i can't recall anything.
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Hahahaha can you please tell me more about this third key trade the Flames and Habs made this year?? My memory must be failing me as i can't recall anything.
KADRI

How hard is that to figure out. The cap space was for Kadri.
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Old 12-12-2022, 10:04 PM   #233
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Old 12-12-2022, 10:04 PM   #234
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The game plan has to be play this boring style on the road.

I mean the forwards are more talented than that. Right?
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But that wasn't the trade and cap space isn't Dudley squat.
Those actually were the 2 trades and the cap space is accounted in the $2.125M savings in Toffoli's contract over Monahan.

It's STILL a FLEECING by the Habs, you guys are hilarious.

If the Flames did that to another team all we'd hear about on here is the WIZARDRY.
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Old 12-12-2022, 10:08 PM   #236
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KADRI

How hard is that to figure out. The cap space was for Kadri.
How hard is it to figure out Kadri wasn't part of no trade with the Habs.

Of course the cap space was to sign Kadri, but the fact it had to be done is due to the cap mismanagement from the so called wizard in the first place.

Kadri wasn't part of the 2 trades with Montreal. Montreal destroyed Tre in those 2 combined trades. Why is that so hard for people to see and admit.
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Old 12-12-2022, 10:09 PM   #237
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Those actually were the 2 trades and the cap space is accounted in the $2.125M savings in Toffoli's contract over Monahan.

It's STILL a FLEECING by the Habs, you guys are hilarious.

If the Flames did that to another team all we'd hear about on here is the WIZARDRY.
You do know he had another trade worked out that fell apart last minute so he had to pivot to Montreal.

Pitlick really looks good though.
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Old 12-12-2022, 10:10 PM   #238
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You can't just make up your own rules about evaluating trades and then get mad at everyone else for not having the same criteria
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How hard is it to figure out Kadri wasn't part of no trade with the Habs.

Of course the cap space was to sign Kadri, but the fact it had to be done is due to the cap mismanagement from the so called wizard in the first place.

Kadri wasn't part of the 2 trades with Montreal. Montreal destroyed Tre in those 2 combined trades. Why is that so hard for people to see and admit.
Kadri was willing to sign with them but they needed the cap space...don't be dumb that is why they made the trade. If Kadri hadn't agreed they wouldn't have done it.

Nobody would take Monahan's contract for less obviously...even the Yotes backed out when it looked like Monahan was heading there
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How hard is it to figure out Kadri wasn't part of no trade with the Habs.

Of course the cap space was to sign Kadri, but the fact it had to be done is due to the cap mismanagement from the so called wizard in the first place.

Kadri wasn't part of the 2 trades with Montreal. Montreal destroyed Tre in those 2 combined trades. Why is that so hard for people to see and admit.
How is Kadri not part of the equation? But you get to randomly tie two trades together that are unrelated to each other?

You aren't making any sense.

Should we bundle the Bennett and Tkachuk trade into 1? Or make it a 3 way trade with Montreal?
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