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Old 12-10-2022, 02:59 PM   #2961
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Glad to see England bounced. Worst fans in sports, always so obnoxious.
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Kind of crazy that Morocco's path has been through Spain, Portugal, and now France. Obviously they have a political history with Spain and France. Bot sure about Portugal, but being neighbours, there is probably some kind of rivalry between them.

Their fans have been pretty nuts though. Apparently before the game today, a lot of ticketless fans tried to rush the stadium and their were injuries.
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Old 12-10-2022, 03:05 PM   #2963
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It's criminal how strong of a group Canada was put into. Fingers crossed for a better draw in 2026!
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Old 12-10-2022, 03:11 PM   #2964
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Argentina vs France is the final we need two of the world's best players.
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As said, Southgate plays not to lose.
I said after the US match, that mentality was horrible and will come back to haunt them. He doesn't have a champions mentality or killer instinct.
Can you play safe all the way to a World Cup? I don't think so
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Old 12-10-2022, 03:22 PM   #2966
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Not to defend Southgate or anything, I don't think he's good enough either, but who is really out there? The two guys I assume most England fans wanted after the Euros, Howe and Potter, are no longer available, Howe likely not for a long time, Potter we'll see. It's a high pressure job with an insatiable fanbase, I can't imagine there are a ton of top managers who want the job. Maybe take a run at Enrique if he's interested, although I assume he'll be back into club football now.
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Old 12-10-2022, 03:22 PM   #2967
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Old 12-10-2022, 03:26 PM   #2968
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Argentina vs France is the final we need two of the world's best players.
would be a repeat of that fantastic round of 16 match they had in Kazan 4 years ago

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would be a repeat of that fantastic round of 16 match they had in Kazan 4 years ago

That Pavard Howitzer....that was a thing of beauty.
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Not to defend Southgate or anything, I don't think he's good enough either, but who is really out there? The two guys I assume most England fans wanted after the Euros, Howe and Potter, are no longer available, Howe likely not for a long time, Potter we'll see. It's a high pressure job with an insatiable fanbase, I can't imagine there are a ton of top managers who want the job. Maybe take a run at Enrique if he's interested, although I assume he'll be back into club football now.
I'd stick with Southgate if he can learn to grow a pair.

What he has in his defense is his squad and people management skills although he must be grinding on Grealish's nerves.

Compared to the days of the so called golden generation when the players then are stating now that the main issue was a fractured squad he has at least created a spirit of cohesiveness.

This isn't a bad exit. They were the better team on the wrong end of VAR. They could very easily been one up at HT as opposed to one down.

And huge props for keeping the apparent Ben White drama out of the press.
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Old 12-10-2022, 03:39 PM   #2971
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Having said that....

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Depth in the squad was England’s advantage over every team in this tournament IMO.

I don’t think other teams have the game breaking talent on the bench England had available to them.

Not making a sub until the 80th minute once you’re down 2-1 wasted that advantage completely.

IMO Portugal had some similar issues. Leao, Vitinha, Cancelo, could have been starting in a more attacking oriented squad IMO. And it’s always tough to not start Ronaldo and then lose a game 1-0.
Yeah, pretty much bang on.

Honestly? When I am looking at England's squad depth and the first World Cup ever to my knowledge to allow 5 subs?

That should have been a lethal combination.

The ability to re-tool and re-structure half of your outfield? With those guys sitting on the bench?

He should have been like a drunken redneck waving a loaded gun with all of the bullets at his disposal.

Too cautious.
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I'd stick with Southgate if he can learn to grow a pair.

What he has in his defense is his squad and people management skills although he must be grinding on Grealish's nerves.

Compared to the days of the so called golden generation when the players then are stating now that the main issue was a fractured squad he has at least created a spirit of cohesiveness.

This isn't a bad exit. They were the better team on the wrong end of VAR. They could very easily been one up at HT as opposed to one down.

And huge props for keeping the apparent Ben White drama out of the press.
Yeah unless he resigns I expect he'll get 2024, might be a win or bust tournament at that point. And there's a cruel irony to this exit because this tournament is easily the best they've looked of the three he's managed, but it's the earliest exit.
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Old 12-10-2022, 03:51 PM   #2974
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Blaming VAR such an English thing to do.

Lots of English talk they are gone thankfully time to move on. No one cared to breakdown the other games this much.

This might be the worst final 4 in a long time in terms of what they have put on the field so far, even if England advanced I would say the same thing.
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Blaming VAR such an English thing to do.

Lots of English talk they are gone thankfully time to move on. No one cared to breakdown the other games this much.

This might be the worst final 4 in a long time in terms of what they have put on the field so far, even if England advanced I would say the same thing.
1. Who's blaming VAR and
2. Who's English?
3. Bolded. Lol! Who cares? You whiny about that?
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Old 12-10-2022, 03:58 PM   #2976
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Who's Grealish subbing on for at that point?

Rashford and Sterling made sense because of the success Saka was having getting in behind. Far more direct than Grealish in that aspect.

And remember, you're not tying the game to get a point, you've still got extra time to play.

I say the same thing for teams who sub in extra defenders and then give up the tying goal, you've still got extra time to play.
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Grealish instead of Mount I presume. You can't even give Mount any credit for "winning" the penalty when it was Hernandez being brain dead.
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Old 12-10-2022, 04:10 PM   #2978
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It's hard not to envision France taking it this year. I think they were most people's pick before it even started and their path looks very doable at this point. But there have been some pretty unexpected turns so far, so I won't make any predictions.

There was one analyst that I heard before the tournament that said not to sleep on Morocco and that he said he thought they might go far. I wish I could find the video now, because the guy looks like a genius now. He also had Croatia as his dark horse to win the whole thing.
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1. Who's blaming VAR and
2. Who's English?
3. Bolded. Lol! Who cares? You whiny about that?
1. You
They were the better team on the wrong end of VAR

2. The English fans cheering for England can't believe they exist outside of England gross.

3. No cares about England. We are going to spend the rest of the year talking about what happened? England and Canuck fans are the same.
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Old 12-10-2022, 04:19 PM   #2980
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LOL! You're infatuated with England. What's wrong? Your toilet of a country not getting enough attention?

3. Simple rules of the forum. If you don't want to join in the conversation then simply stfu and don't join in.
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