[Signing] Flames sign Kylington (2 yrs, $2.5 mil AAV)

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Are the Flames getting cap relief?

No.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

I do, and it's not my place to reveal. But it will likely become public at some point, and it will be understood why they don't need to add any pressure with deadlines.

Sure. But this right here is the only indication needed to tell me Kylington/ the Flames are playing this PR issue wrong. It may be Kylington's desire, but then he has to understand that generally uninformed people are going to pry and potentially react poorly. Get ahead of whatever it is, make a simple statement, ask for understanding, and move on. Even if it is personal, if it will come out eventually it is best to address it before someone else gets the chance to make the story for you; perhaps something you don't want it to be.

[CroFlames]

A theory that has been in my head is that maybe his wife/gf is pregnant but it's a complicated/difficult pregnancy, so he wishes to be there with her in case the worst happens. It would explain why they want complete radio silence and would also explain why the club hasn't suspended him.

If a player's grandpa is dying of cancer, people usually don't keep that a secret and that makes sense.

Who knows, but I'm a huge fan and I just wish him all the best and a speedy return to the Flames.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Sure. But this right here is the only indication needed to tell me Kylington/ the Flames are playing this PR issue wrong. It may be Kylington's desire, but then he has to understand that generally uninformed people are going to pry and potentially react poorly. Get ahead of whatever it is, make a simple statement, ask for understanding, and move on. Even if it is personal, if it will come out eventually it is best to address it before someone else gets the chance to make the story for you; perhaps something you don't want it to be.

Hard no.

Your (and our) desire to know does not trump his need to keep this matter personal. There's a reason why they are handling it the way they are and that reason could be because it is part of keeping him or others safe.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

A theory that has been in my head is that maybe his wife/gf is pregnant but it's a complicated/difficult pregnancy, so he wishes to be there with her in case the worst happens. It would explain why they want complete radio silence and would also explain why the club hasn't suspended him.

If a player's grandpa is dying of cancer, people usually don't keep that a secret and that makes sense.

Who knows, but I'm a huge fan and I just wish him all the best and a speedy return to the Flames.

It's pretty obvious Tigray forces have captured a family member of Kylington and he's joined the Etrean army to undergo a secret mission to rescue that family member. Which is why this is all hush hush.

Now, all the wild speculation can end.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Hard no.

Your (and our) desire to know does not trump his need to keep this matter personal. There's a reason why they are handling it the way they are and that reason could be because it is part of keeping him or others safe.

I have no personal desire to see it. Looking at this purely from a PR perspective, it's a poor choice. Kylington is allowing other people to set the conversation around this entirely. The way to avoid further prying into his situation is to create a statement from which people can derive enough information to not require further digging and complaining. If that's what he desires, that's what he should do.

Saying absolutely nothing just leads to wild speculation, something the pundits repeatedly assure us is something he does not desire at all. If that's the case it is within his power entirely to stop it.

The fact is that being a public personality (being a multi millionaire hockey player auto-conveys this status) reduces your ability to have privacy in general. It's part of why they deserve such a large amount of compensation in return. They're not getting paid millions just to play skatey-shooty. They get paid millions because their life/ performance becomes subject to public scrutiny from morons as diverse as you and I all the way to the depths of intelligence present in Eric Francis. Look at the johnny gaudreau thread- you have JAs wildly speculating about every element of his family dynamic... That's part of the job unfortunately. So, stop living in a fantasy world where you can get paid millions in a very public facing role and can still expect absolute privacy. That's a farce.

[FlamesAddiction]

I guess I just don't see the negative PR side. I think fans and the media have mostly accepted that it is a private matter. I don't see a lot of crazy or serious speculation.

Personally, all I want to know is if and when he is coming back, and if he isn't coming back, whether the Flames can recapture any of the cap space for this season. I sincerely hope everything is alright with him, but I don't need to know any specifics of what the personal matter is.

[dissentowner]

Lol, Monahammer trying to fish for info while trying to hide that is what he is doing by saying he isn't. Classic.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Sure. But this right here is the only indication needed to tell me Kylington/ the Flames are playing this PR issue wrong. It may be Kylington's desire, but then he has to understand that generally uninformed people are going to pry and potentially react poorly. Get ahead of whatever it is, make a simple statement, ask for understanding, and move on. Even if it is personal, if it will come out eventually it is best to address it before someone else gets the chance to make the story for you; perhaps something you don't want it to be.

My guess is if he’s dealing with something significant enough that he has to take an extended leave of absence he probably doesn’t care what a number of keyboard jockeys think.

He’s probably trying to stay positive and deal with whatever the issue is.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I have no personal desire to see it. Looking at this purely from a PR perspective, it's a poor choice. Kylington is allowing other people to set the conversation around this entirely. The way to avoid further prying into his situation is to create a statement from which people can derive enough information to not require further digging and complaining. If that's what he desires, that's what he should do.

Saying absolutely nothing just leads to wild speculation, something the pundits repeatedly assure us is something he does not desire at all. If that's the case it is within his power entirely to stop it.

The fact is that being a public personality (being a multi millionaire hockey player auto-conveys this status) reduces your ability to have privacy in general. It's part of why they deserve such a large amount of compensation in return. They're not getting paid millions just to play skatey-shooty. They get paid millions because their life/ performance becomes subject to public scrutiny from morons as diverse as you and I all the way to the depths of intelligence present in Eric Francis. Look at the johnny gaudreau thread- you have JAs wildly speculating about every element of his family dynamic... That's part of the job unfortunately. So, stop living in a fantasy world where you can get paid millions in a very public facing role and can still expect absolute privacy. That's a farce.

So what. Let wild speculation be wild speculation. Obviously that's down the list of worries for both the player and the club. They don't care about a bunch of junk twitter posts that would all look moronic in the future.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I have no personal desire to see it. Looking at this purely from a PR perspective, it's a poor choice. Kylington is allowing other people to set the conversation around this entirely. The way to avoid further prying into his situation is to create a statement from which people can derive enough information to not require further digging and complaining. If that's what he desires, that's what he should do.

Saying absolutely nothing just leads to wild speculation, something the pundits repeatedly assure us is something he does not desire at all. If that's the case it is within his power entirely to stop it.

The fact is that being a public personality (being a multi millionaire hockey player auto-conveys this status) reduces your ability to have privacy in general. It's part of why they deserve such a large amount of compensation in return. They're not getting paid millions just to play skatey-shooty. They get paid millions because their life/ performance becomes subject to public scrutiny from morons as diverse as you and I all the way to the depths of intelligence present in Eric Francis. Look at the johnny gaudreau thread- you have JAs wildly speculating about every element of his family dynamic... That's part of the job unfortunately. So, stop living in a fantasy world where you can get paid millions in a very public facing role and can still expect absolute privacy. That's a farce.

Yes, being a celebrity does reduce his ability to maintain his privacy but it does not entitle you or anyone to know everything about him.

It appears to me you have some personal desire here, otherwise, you'd let it go.

[BoLevi]

This is a ridiculous situation. Either it's important/severe enough that the flames could demand some sort of cap relief... Or its not. In which case get your butt on the team bus.

Without any information to the contrary to rely on it is perfectly reasonable to assume that this is Kylington n treating the flames and flames fans shabbily. If the flames and Kylington feel this conclusion is unfair, then make an announcement.

[yourbestfriend]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I guess I just don't see the negative PR side. I think fans and the media have mostly accepted that it is a private matter. I don't see a lot of crazy or serious speculation.

Personally, all I want to know is if and when he is coming back, and if he isn't coming back, whether the Flames can recapture any of the cap space for this season. I sincerely hope everything is alright with him, but I don't need to know any specifics of what the personal matter is.

I think most posters share this same view. The team has already put out a statement asking for privacy, fair enough.
With that said. I don't think anyone in September would of guessed that the situation would be so severe that he'd still be out in December. Some guidance on when he'd be coming back, to the extent possible, would of been useful in setting expectations and avoiding public speculation.
If in September they said, he's out for personal issues and is expected to be away from the team for 7 months we basically wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
Hockey aside, just hoping he's doing well from a life perspective.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

This is a ridiculous situation. Either it's important/severe enough that the flames could demand some sort of cap relief... Or its not. In which case get your butt on the team bus.

Without any information to the contrary to rely on it is perfectly reasonable to assume that this is Kylington n treating the flames and flames fans shabbily. If the flames and Kylington feel this conclusion is unfair, then make an announcement.

the only ridiculous things about this are posts like this. Let the man deal with whatever he's dealing with and let the team handle it appropriately. JFC.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I have no personal desire to see it. Looking at this purely from a PR perspective, it's a poor choice. Kylington is allowing other people to set the conversation around this entirely. The way to avoid further prying into his situation is to create a statement from which people can derive enough information to not require further digging and complaining. If that's what he desires, that's what he should do.

Saying absolutely nothing just leads to wild speculation, something the pundits repeatedly assure us is something he does not desire at all. If that's the case it is within his power entirely to stop it.

The fact is that being a public personality (being a multi millionaire hockey player auto-conveys this status) reduces your ability to have privacy in general. It's part of why they deserve such a large amount of compensation in return. They're not getting paid millions just to play skatey-shooty. They get paid millions because their life/ performance becomes subject to public scrutiny from morons as diverse as you and I all the way to the depths of intelligence present in Eric Francis. Look at the johnny gaudreau thread- you have JAs wildly speculating about every element of his family dynamic... That's part of the job unfortunately. So, stop living in a fantasy world where you can get paid millions in a very public facing role and can still expect absolute privacy. That's a farce.

Actually I have seen very little speculation. Most seem to understand that it is likely very serious and if privacy is being asked for, it is being respect.

Sorry man you are wrong on this one.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I have no personal desire to see it. Looking at this purely from a PR perspective, it's a poor choice. Kylington is allowing other people to set the conversation around this entirely. The way to avoid further prying into his situation is to create a statement from which people can derive enough information to not require further digging and complaining. If that's what he desires, that's what he should do.

Saying absolutely nothing just leads to wild speculation, something the pundits repeatedly assure us is something he does not desire at all. If that's the case it is within his power entirely to stop it.

The fact is that being a public personality (being a multi millionaire hockey player auto-conveys this status) reduces your ability to have privacy in general. It's part of why they deserve such a large amount of compensation in return. They're not getting paid millions just to play skatey-shooty. They get paid millions because their life/ performance becomes subject to public scrutiny from morons as diverse as you and I all the way to the depths of intelligence present in Eric Francis. Look at the johnny gaudreau thread- you have JAs wildly speculating about every element of his family dynamic... That's part of the job unfortunately. So, stop living in a fantasy world where you can get paid millions in a very public facing role and can still expect absolute privacy. That's a farce.

What if people knowing about the situation actually makes the situation worse for Kylington?

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by VilleN

What if people knowing about the situation actually makes the situation worse for Kylington?

Bad PR is worse - according to some people.

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I have no personal desire to see it. Looking at this purely from a PR perspective, it's a poor choice. Kylington is allowing other people to set the conversation around this entirely. The way to avoid further prying into his situation is to create a statement from which people can derive enough information to not require further digging and complaining. If that's what he desires, that's what he should do.

Saying absolutely nothing just leads to wild speculation, something the pundits repeatedly assure us is something he does not desire at all. If that's the case it is within his power entirely to stop it.

The fact is that being a public personality (being a multi millionaire hockey player auto-conveys this status) reduces your ability to have privacy in general. It's part of why they deserve such a large amount of compensation in return. They're not getting paid millions just to play skatey-shooty. They get paid millions because their life/ performance becomes subject to public scrutiny from morons as diverse as you and I all the way to the depths of intelligence present in Eric Francis. Look at the johnny gaudreau thread- you have JAs wildly speculating about every element of his family dynamic... That's part of the job unfortunately. So, stop living in a fantasy world where you can get paid millions in a very public facing role and can still expect absolute privacy. That's a farce.

This is an awful take when you have no idea what it could be. What if it was something so terrible that it even doesn't matter at all what it is? They would do everything possible to protect the player there, which is what they're doing. It doesn't matter in the slightest what people are speculating and writing. It doesn't matter what the PR looks like. It doesn't matter that some idiots on the internet want to know when he's back.

EDIT: Adjusted my post because I speculated on what the reason could be, and if I'm right, it would be terrible.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

This is an awful take when you have no idea what it could be. What if it was something as terrible as an attempted suicide? Should the Flames come out and say "Kylington is going to be out for a while because he tried to kill himself"? Hell no. They would do everything possible to protect the player there, which is what they're doing. It doesn't matter in the slightest what people are speculating and writing. It doesn't matter what the PR looks like. It doesn't matter that some idiots on the internet want to know when he's back.

I'm on your side here but it may be a good idea to remove this post.

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by D as in David

I'm on your side here but I really think you should remove this post in case you have hit the mark.

You're right, I adjusted my post. Not sure if you need to adjust the quote in your post as well.