Former Flames player performance thread - 2022/23 season

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

NJ is playing great, but there is a funny wrinkle when it comes to these historically long winning streaks—more often than not, these teams fail to make the playoffs.

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This is genuinely surprising. Where did you learn this?

[JohnnyB]

Monahan is looking great for the Habs. If they trade him at the deadline, I hope it's to a legit contender.

Both Monahan and Tkachuk have their first games back at the Dome next week. I wonder what the fan receptions will be.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Yeah, I had Gaudreau as being more productive than Tkachuk as well. Although, side note, I think if you mention schedule or strength of schedule 3 more times this forum self implodes and we lose Calgarypuck.

Seriously man, its absolutely bonkers how many times you've uttered those words this season.

Just pointing out the reality of things...people like to pretend its not a factor. If you gamble on things like point totals it's a massive factor. Easier to score on bad teams...duh

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Bahahahahah 15 points for Bennett in 20 games, what a LOSER!!!!!!!!!!

11 of his points came in losses. Also 12 minor penalties. derp! lol

[FBI]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

11 of his points came in losses. Also 12 minor penalties. derp! lol

It’s better to NOT score points in losses!

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

NJ is playing great, but there is a funny wrinkle when it comes to these historically long winning streaks—more often than not, these teams fail to make the playoffs.

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This sounds interesting, perhaps worth a closer look.

Do you have a source or the data with the details?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

This sounds interesting, perhaps worth a closer look.

Do you have a source or the data with the details?

We won 10 in a row last year and won the division.

Colorado had a streak of 10 in a row and 9 in a row and won the cup.

We won 10 in a row the year with Gully and made the playoffs probably was the only reason we even made the playoffs to begin with.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

This sounds interesting, perhaps worth a closer look.

Do you have a source or the data with the details?

I'm not sure where it came from here but it's not accurate.

Here are occasions since 1980 where a team won 12 or more games in a row.

92-93 Penguins: 17 - made playoffs
16-17 Blue Jackets: 16 - made playoffs
81-82 Islanders: 15 - won cup
12-13 Pengiuns: 15 - made playoffs
09-10 Capitals: 14 - Made Playoffs
85-86 Flyers: 13 - Made Playoffs
00-01 Devils: 13 - Made Finals
21-22 Panthers: 13 - Made Playoffs
98-99 Avalanche: 12 - Made Playoffs
10-11 Pengiuns: 12 - Made Playoffs
13-14 Bruins: 12 - Made Playoffs
15-16 Panthers: 12 - Made Playoffs
15-16 Blackhawks: 12 - Made Playoffs
16-17 Wild: 12 - Made Playoffs.

Literally every single one made the playoffs.

[Erick Estrada]

I have to imagine a team going on a 24+ point run would have to go on nearly an equally long losing streak to miss the playoffs. They could play .500 the rest of the season and likely make the playoffs.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'm not sure where it came from here but it's not accurate.

Here are occasions since 1980 where a team won 12 or more games in a row.

92-93 Penguins: 17 - made playoffs
16-17 Blue Jackets: 16 - made playoffs
81-82 Islanders: 15 - won cup
12-13 Pengiuns: 15 - made playoffs
09-10 Capitals: 14 - Made Playoffs
85-86 Flyers: 13 - Made Playoffs
00-01 Devils: 13 - Made Finals
21-22 Panthers: 13 - Made Playoffs
98-99 Avalanche: 12 - Made Playoffs
10-11 Pengiuns: 12 - Made Playoffs
13-14 Bruins: 12 - Made Playoffs
15-16 Panthers: 12 - Made Playoffs
15-16 Blackhawks: 12 - Made Playoffs
16-17 Wild: 12 - Made Playoffs.

Literally every single one made the playoffs.

You’re missing the nuance of his post. It’s all about the nuance.

[getbak]

Here's a list of every NHL win streak of at least 10 games: https://records.nhl.com/records/team...eak-one-season

By my count, there are 37 teams with 10+ game winning streaks since the year 2000 and only 2 missed the playoffs (Flyers in 2017 and Sabres in 2019). There are way more Stanley Cup and President's Trophy winners than teams that missed the playoffs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Textcritic getting virtually suplexed.

[Old Yeller]

As he should with such an inaccurate statement.

[Shazam]

13 - hell no.
12 - yes.
11- hell no.

They have to have just the right streak.

[Strange Brew]

It is likely that tc really meant to say that such teams “pretty much” miss the playoffs which I then believe would allow for invocation of the nuance clause.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'm not sure where it came from here but it's not accurate.

Here are occasions since 1980 where a team won 12 or more games in a row.

92-93 Penguins: 17 - made playoffs
16-17 Blue Jackets: 16 - made playoffs
81-82 Islanders: 15 - won cup
12-13 Pengiuns: 15 - made playoffs
09-10 Capitals: 14 - Made Playoffs
85-86 Flyers: 13 - Made Playoffs
00-01 Devils: 13 - Made Finals
21-22 Panthers: 13 - Made Playoffs
98-99 Avalanche: 12 - Made Playoffs
10-11 Pengiuns: 12 - Made Playoffs
13-14 Bruins: 12 - Made Playoffs
15-16 Panthers: 12 - Made Playoffs
15-16 Blackhawks: 12 - Made Playoffs
16-17 Wild: 12 - Made Playoffs.

Literally every single one made the playoffs.

Maybe he meant to win a cup. Only 1 did.

[dino7c]

Didn't the Sabres have a massive winning streak and miss the playoffs by like 20 points? Islanders?

I bet the Devil's make it but they aren't a contender yet IMO

[getbak]

3 of the last 4 Cup winners each had a 10+ game winning streak. In fact, the Lightning had streaks of 10 and 11 games in 2019-20.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Didn't the Sabres have a massive winning streak and miss the playoffs by like 20 points? Islanders?

I bet the Devil's make it but they aren't a contender yet IMO

This post by setback sums it up best. Flyers in 2017, Sabres in 2019 had 10 games or more winning streaks and missed the playoffs. 35 other teams with that streak did make the playoffs.

Yes there's two examples, but your chances of missing the playoffs with a 10 game winning streak is miniscule. Plus they're underlying stats suggests they are playing extremely well whether they're winning or not, which suggests they are for real.

Originally Posted by getbak

Here's a list of every NHL win streak of at least 10 games: https://records.nhl.com/records/team...eak-one-season

By my count, there are 37 teams with 10+ game winning streaks since the year 2000 and only 2 missed the playoffs (Flyers in 2017 and Sabres in 2019). There are way more Stanley Cup and President's Trophy winners than teams that missed the playoffs.

[kevman]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Maybe he meant to win a cup. Only 1 did.

It's interesting because of the 14 teams with win streaks that long, there are only 2 that made the finals with 1 of them winning the cup.

It's a small sample size but it seems like a long winning streak like that makes a team no more likely to win the cup than any other playoff team.