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Old 11-19-2022, 03:27 PM   #1
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This is bogging down the Canadian government thread but I think it’s interesting

The current mandate of the CBC is


is in the Broadcast Act:
(l) the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, as the national public broadcaster, should provide radio and television services incorporating a wide range of programming that informs, enlightens and entertains;

(m) the programming provided by the Corporation should
(i) be predominantly and distinctively Canadian,

(ii) reflect Canada and its regions to national and regional audiences, while serving the special needs of those regions,

(iii) actively contribute to the flow and exchange of cultural expression,

(iv) be in English and in French, reflecting the different needs and circumstances of each official language community, including the particular needs and circumstances of English and French linguistic minorities,

(v) strive to be of equivalent quality in English and in French,

(vi) contribute to shared national consciousness and identity,

(vii) be made available throughout Canada by the most appropriate and efficient means and as resources become available for the purpose, and

(viii) reflect the multicultural and multiracial nature of Canada;
(n) where any conflict arises between the objectives of the Corporation set out in paragraphs (l) and (m) and the interests of any other broadcasting undertaking of the Canadian broadcasting system, it shall be resolved in the public interest, and where the public interest would be equally served by resolving the conflict in favour of either, it shall be resolved in favour of the objectives set out in paragraphs (l) and (m);
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Old 11-19-2022, 03:28 PM   #2
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My thoughts are the current format of TV outside of news provides no value to Canadians.

On the other hand News and Radio does provides and important service to Canadians and should be kept or it’s funding enhanced.
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Old 11-19-2022, 03:50 PM   #3
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I think they should continue to produce dozens of terrible TV progrums each year because every now and then they make something that isn't totally terrible. Such as...well I can't think of any examples right now but shirley they existed maybe probably?

Honestly though just be as much like BBC as you can. Where you can't, import BBC or other commonwealth programming. Just be different to the US moronocy.

Also, there should be a salary ceiling. #### Ron Maclean and Peter Mansbridge
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To copy from the other thread. My thoughts.

If we spend $1 billion per year on news, local news, local sports, radio I am fine with that.

If CBC can't cover for 1/4 of that with income, big deal.

The point being that we should get more out of what we pay as taxpayers, and by more I mean more of the the things nobody else will spend money on.

Local News & things like CBC Marketplace which is just fantastic and an important part of consumer (taxpayer) protection.
Local Sports
Local Radio

Then you look at things like Canada wide news where there are more players & international news, where there are even more players and see where CBC fits in.

I think they do a decent job on both those things as well.

Those things provide max value to the taxpayer.

TV programming where you are competing against deep pocketed private corporations do not provide value.

If Canadian content is important, which I agree with, it should be done in the way of local news & sports, and then some kind of program on nation wide stuff that promote Canada. CBC Marketplace is IMO one of the greatest things to come out of CBC, and is very much promoting & supporting the Canadian consumer. To me that is 'Canada' content.
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That mandate actually seems pretty good to me.
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Love the podcasts, love the highlighting of the local talent on their arts programming, and I think they have good news coverage. Can probably cut down on TV show production though.
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I think they should keep producing Canadian made content. It's an important outlet for Canadian artists to get stuff on the air. Sure, a lot of it isn't great but some of it is and much of the Canadian talent that has been able to crack the US/overseas markets got their start on CBC.
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I don't mind CBCNN and I have it on in the background most of the time while I am working from home. Marketplace is a decent program although I feel like the stories/investigative stuff has dropped off in terms of quality post-pandemic. They should bring back a show like Street Cents to provide financial education to youth (I remember watching a lot of that stuff.) The sports programming is generally very good and I enjoy watching the amateur athletics such as speed skating, sledding sports, track and field etc.

For me they really lack in terms of compelling tv shows and movies though. Maybe they could focus on development improvement for that stuff.
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Love the podcasts, love the highlighting of the local talent on their arts programming, and I think they have good news coverage. Can probably cut down on TV show production though.
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Old 11-19-2022, 05:05 PM   #11
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In terms of Canadian content, its weird that you will usually find good canadian shows not on CBC.

I think the mandate should be local news and sports, but I think for the most part we don't need anything else from CBC.

I think that its money should be split, a PBS style public funding model and some money for the government.

But CBC needs to be somewhat survivable without continual cash from the government.
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I think they should keep producing Canadian made content. It's an important outlet for Canadian artists to get stuff on the air. Sure, a lot of it isn't great but some of it is and much of the Canadian talent that has been able to crack the US/overseas markets got their start on CBC.
Is the CBC a good means for this or would it be better to be general arts funding to subsidize producers directly or CanCon restrictions through the CRTC?
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I think they should continue to produce dozens of terrible TV progrums each year because every now and then they make something that isn't totally terrible. Such as...well I can't think of any examples right now but shirley they existed maybe probably?

Honestly though just be as much like BBC as you can. Where you can't, import BBC or other commonwealth programming. Just be different to the US moronocy.

Also, there should be a salary ceiling. #### Ron Maclean and Peter Mansbridge
Degrassi, Road to Avonlee/Anne of Greene Gables and Schitts Creak come to mind though I think Eugene Levy could have gotten the private sector to back Schitt
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100 percent defund.

There is plenty of local coverage on other channels that do not get the taxpayer funding to the extent that cbc does.

At this point there is no incentive to create good content as they are subsidized to cover losses.

Let them sink or swim. If they produce watchable content they will create viewership and thus attract advertising dollars. If not then they will wither away.

There are far more important things that need federal funding much more than the cbc.
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100 percent defund.

There is plenty of local coverage on other channels that do not get the taxpayer funding to the extent that cbc does.

At this point there is no incentive to create good content as they are subsidized to cover losses.

Let them sink or swim. If they produce watchable content they will create viewership and thus attract advertising dollars. If not then they will wither away.

There are far more important things that need federal funding much more than the cbc.
I really dislike the CBC but I have no intent to support a defunding of it.

I think a National Broadcaster is an important element so long as they're not carrying Government water.
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I wouldn't mind programming during elections (regional or national or whatever) that attempts to be an independent analysis of all the parties that are running.

Most political media produced by the parties themselves is absolute drivel and typically political mud slinging.

The debates are kind of a clown show.

Something along the lines of something where an independent panel compares different party claims and compares them to get a proposed idea of what is being offered and who it may benefit and perhaps even get some questions called in to be answered... that might work well?

I'm not aware of any that isn't terribly biased in some way or another which just turns it into more political noise at a higher volume.
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Degrassi, Road to Avonlee/Anne of Greene Gables and Schitts Creak come to mind though I think Eugene Levy could have gotten the private sector to back Schitt
OG Degrassi and Road to Avonlee were 90s joints.

Working Moms was(is?) really good.
Mr D
Baroness Von Sketch seemed good though its hard to get too engaged with a sketch show

They've definitely hit some homeruns, but it also feels like a bit of a circle-jerk for the established faces sometimes.


Honestly my biggest gripe is probably just how much they advertise their own shows and it probably skews my perception. So if CBC can't sell enough advertising, how about airing more Heritage Moments or shorts (Log Drivers Waltz and new ones)
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