Star Wars

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Great, now you made the gerbil wheel turn, thanks a lot.

Who is Luthan?

Well there are some interesting hints.

He gives Andor a Kyber Crystal, the heart of a light saber. He tells Andor to get a least 50,000 for it though its worth far more to him, probably sentimental value.

In one of the early episodes, Andor asks who Luthan is and the answer is interesting "That's not something that we will ever discuss". Not someone, but something.

Its thin, but I believe that Luthan is a former Jedi that survived Order 66 and listened to what Obi-Wan said in his holocron message in Rebels.



The Empire doesn't know who Luthan is yet, so why change his look when he returns to his shop. Is it to disguise against future identification, or is the Empire already looking for Luthan from his previous life, and they know what Luthan Jedi Knight looks like.

Is it possible that he is a former Jedi, is it more possible that his ruthless nature and willingness to see civillian casualties to drive the narrative against an Empire that he wants revenge in the worst possible way for the deaths of his friends ? Is he not only a Jedi, but one who has fallen?

I really hope they keep Andor "pure" in the sense that they don't start bringing in things like Jedi and such. We're getting the "boots on the ground" look at the Star Wars Universe again and that is awesome.

[CroFlames]

Luthan does not strike me as a former Jedi at all.

I bet he was a big important business man during the old republic and through a series of events, his family was killed by the Empire. Instead of sulking, be bided his time and plotted his revenge while keeping a successful business to fund his nefarious plans. He's a man bent on vengeance because of love of family.

I love the Jedi as much as the next guy, but I hope they keep Jedi far far away from this show. It's so good as is.

[Wormius]

Did Disney ever say how far the Andor timeline will go with respect to Rogue One?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Luna said its over a 5 year period before rogue 1 and should end right where r1 starts

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Luna said its over a 5 year period before rogue 1 and should end right where r1 starts

I think this is over the two seasons, to be clear. I don't think we're getting to Rogue One this year.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Did Disney ever say how far the Andor timeline will go with respect to Rogue One?

This season is one year.

Next season will be 4 years broken into 3 episodes arcs with the last episode leading right into the start of Rogue One.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by zukes

This season is one year.

Next season will be 4 years broken into 3 episodes arcs with the last episode leading right into the start of Rogue One.

Boo-urns. This show....this show is one where they should just stretch it to 5 actual seasons and milk the ever-loving hell out of it.

If they maintain the tone and quality...I'd be totally okay with more of this show.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Locke

Boo-urns. This show....this show is one where they should just stretch it to 5 actual seasons and milk the ever-loving hell out of it.

If they maintain the tone and quality...I'd be totally okay with more of this show.

Yeah, I think that’s the rub. It seems like an expensive show to produce and they’re probably not getting a lot of new subscribers if they draw it out over 4 more seasons. Plus there’s also the risk of something happening with the actors and writers during a longer stretch. In this regard, I’d rather they maintain the status quo and not risk turning to crap because a story editor or writer got huge movies offers or something and turned the reins over to JJ Abrams.

[KTrain]

I prefer that they have a set story they're trying to tell and know how it's going to play out than to hope they get 5 seasons and add a lot of filler to get there.

Just bring the showrunners/writers back and get them to tell another story over a couple season. As long as they maintain the quality we'll get to see all parts of the universe.

[Hack&Lube]

Andor was originally proposed as a 5 season show but Diego Luna said committing to 5 years of one show just wasn't realistic for him.

I think they should keep it going and brand it Star Wars: Rebellion or Rebel Dawn, etc. and turn it it into a genesis of the Rebellion show rather than focus on one guy.

[Bigtime]

If we get two damn near perfect seasons of TV from this I'll be happy. Just like The British Office.

[CaptainCrunch]

Based on that Hack, you could do some really interesting thing, and in other years focus on other acts of rebellion.

The Bothan's dying getting the Death Star 2 plans, which was a trap by Palpatine.

The stories around some of the Imperial defectors could be cool.

More stories around the ISB dealing with a growing rebellion and pressure from the ruling council of the Empire, I would love to see that.

You could even go years further to the ROTJ era where everything starts falling apart for the Empire.

Heck, I would love to see a year of post Empire panic by the surviving Imperials, and the war crimes by the Rebels.

[Wormius]

Did they ever answer what happened to all of the original clones? How did they end up with non-Jango Fett stormtroopers?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Did they ever answer what happened to all of the original clones? How did they end up with non-Jango Fett stormtroopers?

The clones died off of old age and were replaced by human recruits. Not clones at all. Remember John Boyega was just a regular dude who defected.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

The clones died off of old age and were replaced by human recruits. Not clones at all. Remember John Boyega was just a regular dude who defected.

Yeah, considering the size of the Galaxy realistically 'manpower' should never be in short supply.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Did they ever answer what happened to all of the original clones? How did they end up with non-Jango Fett stormtroopers?

We've seen that explored a little in the Bad Batch S1.

[CaptainCrunch]

In Bad Batch they talked about the cost of cloning versus using normal human recruits.

Sadly when you watch Bad Batch after the inhibitor chips were activated, the Clones personalities changed. They became far more brutal and single minded, so basically they lost the flexibility and probably creative individualism that made them really good soldiers.

We also saw it in Obi-wan that the Clones were basically tossed into the streets to survive. The only clones that were still active were the Clone Commando's who were used to train the new Storm Troopers. I'm hoping in season two of Bad Batch we get an idea of what happened with Cody. They covered him in Legends EU that he continued to serve but didn't like the recruited Storm Troopers who he thought were subpar.

The other more brutal fate in EU, were that aging Clones were put into cyborg bodies as first Generation Death Troopers, but the experiment failed when the Clones realized what had been done to them.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah, considering the size of the Galaxy realistically 'manpower' should never be in short supply.

At the start of the Empire, it was easy to recruit humans. The economy was still suffering from the Clone Wars, plus people especially in the core felt that Palpatine was a hero and the Empire was the way to go so recruiting was easy.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

2 seasons will ensure a high quality through its whole run as they won't get to a point as it drags out where they run out of ideas to instill excitement

I think it's a good thing and means the show will be looked back on very fondly .. then they can use the lessons they learned from andor's critical success and apply it to the next big series

[#-3]

I'd have to re-watch bad batch, because I can't remember if directly said. But you'd think a part of the empire is afraid of how easy it was for them to have the Clones turn on the Republic and Jedi, and fear that someone could do that to them.

Obviously the droid armies had reliability issues, and were probably exposed to the same weakness of programable betrayal.

Brainwash some humans, that's gonna take time to undo, can't just turn a whole army against their current leadership all at once.